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doc개인정보 처리방침 '삼성전자 주식회사' 이하 '회사'라 합니다 는 이용자의 개인정보를 중요시하며, 「정보통신망 이용 촉진 및 정보보호 등에 관한 법률」, 「개인정보보호법」을 준수하기 위하여 노력하고 있습니다 회사는 이용자로부터 제공받은 개인정보를 어떠한 용도와 방식으로 이용하고 있으며, 개인정보 보호를 위해 어떠한 조치를 취하고 있는지 개인정보 처리방침을 통해알려드립니다 0 총칙 "개인정보" 란 살아 있는 개인에 관한 정보로서 성명, 주민등록번호 및 영상 등에 의하여 특정 개인을 알아볼 수 있는 정보 해당 정보만으로는 특정 개인을 알아볼 수 없더라도 다른 정보와 쉽게 결합하여 알아볼 수 있는 것을 포함 를 말합니다 회사는 이용자가 본 개인정보 처리방침을 언제나 쉽게 볼 수 있도록 삼성 개발자 포털 developer samsung com 의 첫 화면 하단 [privacy policy]에 공개하고 있습니다 회사는 개인정보 처리방침을 지속적으로 개선하기 위하여 개정에 필요한 절차를 정하고 있습니다 또한 개인정보 처리방침을 개정하는 경우 이에 버전 번호 등을 부여하여 이용자가 개정된 사항을 쉽게 알아볼 수 있게 합니다 본 방침은 2022년 2월 9일부터 시행되며, 이를 개정하는 경우 웹사이트에 공지 또는 이메일 등의 방법으로 개별 공지 합니다 1 이용자 및 법정대리인의 권리 및 그 행사 방법 1 이용자 및 법정대리인은 등록되어 있는 이용자 본인 혹은 당해 만 14세 미만자의 개인정보와 관련하여, 다음과 같은 사항에 대하여 열람, 정정·삭제, 처리정지, 혹은 동의 철회를 언제든지 요청할 수 있습니다 회사가 가지고 있는 개인정보 이름, 이메일, 국가정보, 파트너십 신청 정보 회사가 개인정보를 이용하거나 제3자에게 제공한 현황 이름, 이메일, 국가정보, 파트너십 신청정보 이용자가 회사의 개인정보 수집∙이용∙제공 등에 동의를 한 현황 이름, 이메일, 국가정보, 파트너십 신청정보 이를 위하여 개인정보 보호 책임자에게 메일·전화로 연락할 수 있습니다 회사는 다음에 해당하는 경우 개인정보의 전부 또는 일부에 대하여 열람 혹은 정정·삭제 요청을 거부할 수 있습니다 법률에 따라 열람이 금지되거나 제한되는 경우 다른 사람의 생명·신체를 해할 우려가 있거나 다른 사람의 재산과 그 밖의 이익을 부당하게 침해할 우려가 있는 경우 2 이용자가 개인정보의 오류에 대해 정정을 요청한 경우, 회사는 정정을 완료하기 전까지 해당 개인정보를 이용하거나 제3자에게 제공하지 않습니다 또한 오류가 있는 개인정보를 제3자에게 이미 제공한 경우에는 정정된 내용을 제3자에게 지체 없이 통지합니다 회사는 이용자 혹은 법정대리인의 요청에 의해 삭제 또는 처리정지된 개인정보를 “7 개인정보의 보유 및 이용 기간”에 명시된 바에 따라 처리하고, 그 외의 용도로 열람 또는 이용할 수 없게 합니다 이용자는 자신의 개인정보를 최신의 상태로 정확하게 입력해야 합니다 이용자가 입력한 부정확한 정보로 인해 발생하는 사고의 책임은 이용자 자신에게 있으며, 타인 정보의 도용 등 허위정보를 입력할 경우 회원자격이 상실될 수 있습니다 이용자에게는 개인정보를 보호받을 권리뿐만 아니라 스스로를 보호하고 타인의 정보를 침해하지 않을 의무도 있습니다 비밀번호 등 이용자의 개인정보가 유출되지 않도록 조심하고, 게시물 등 타인의 개인정보를 훼손하지 않도록 유의해 주십시오 이 같은 책임을 다하지 않고 타인의 정보 및 존엄성을 훼손할 시에는 「정보통신망 이용 촉진 및 정보보호 등에 관한 법률」등에 의해 처벌받을 수 있습니다 2 개인정보 보호 책임자 및 고객 지원 담당부서 회사는 이용자의 개인정보를 보호하고 개인정보와 관련된 불만을 처리하기 위하여 아래와 같이 담당 부서 및 개인정보 보호 책임자를 지정하고 있습니다 1 고객 지원 담당 부서 고객 지원 담당 부서 삼성전자 무선사업부 se 그룹 문의처 support@samsungdevelopers com 2 개인정보 보호 책임자 및 개인정보 보호 담당 부서 개인정보 보호 책임자 개인정보 보호 사무국장 개인정보 보호 담당 부서 개인정보 보호 사무국 전화 1588-4730 문의처 privacy sec@samsung com 3 기타 기관 이용자는 회사의 서비스를 이용하며 발생한 개인정보 보호와 관련된 모든 민원을 개인정보 보호 책임자 혹은 담당부서로 신고할 수 있습니다 회사는 이용자의 신고사항에 대해 신속하고 충분한 답변을 드릴 것입니다 기타 개인정보 침해에 대해 신고나 상담이 필요한 경우에는 아래 기관에 문의하시기 바랍니다 개인정보 침해신고센터 https //privacy kisa or kr/국번 없이 118 대검찰청 과학수사부 사이버수사과 http //cybercid spo go kr/국번 없이 1301 경찰청 사이버안전국 http //cyberbureau police go kr/국번 없이182 3 개인정보 자동 수집 장치의 설치, 운영, 거부에 관한 사항 정보통신망 이용 촉진 및 정보보호 등에 관한 법률 적용 대상인 경우에 한하여 적용됩니다 회사는 이용자의 정보를 수시로 저장하고 찾아내는 ‘쿠키 cookie ’ 등을 사용합니다 쿠키란 회사의 웹사이트 운영에 이용되는 서버가 이용자의 브라우저에 보내는 아주 작은 텍스트 파일로, 이용자의 컴퓨터 하드디스크에 저장됩니다 당사는 google, inc "google" 이 제공하는 서비스인 google analytics를 이용해 귀하의 웹사이트 이용을 분석합니다 google analytics를 통해 생성되는 정보는 google 개인정보 취급방침의 적용을 받으며, 미국 내 google 서버로 전송 후 저장됩니다 google은 당사를 대신해 정보를 처리하여 귀하의 웹사이트 사용을 평가하고, 웹사이트 활동에 대한 보고서를 작성하여 인터넷 사용과 관련된 다른 서비스를 제공합니다 귀하가 브라우저 설정을 통해 쿠키를 앞서 언급한 목적에 사용하는 것을 거부할 수 있지만, 그 경우 웹사이트의 모든 기능을 충분히 사용하지 못할 수 있습니다 귀하는 tools google com/dlpage/gaoptout 에서 현재 귀하의 웹 브라우저에 대한 부가 기능을 다운로드 및 설치하여 추가로 ip 주소를 비롯한 귀하의 사용 정보의 수집과 정보 처리를 옵트아웃할 수 있습니다 google의 귀하 정보 이용에 관한 보다 자세한 내용은 www google com/analytics/learn/privacy html 을 참고하시기 바랍니다 1 쿠키 사용 목적 회사는 자동 로그인 기능 구현, 회원과 비회원의 접속 빈도나 방문 시간 등 분석, 이용자의 취향과 관심분야 파악 및 자취 추적, 각종 이벤트 참여 정도 및 방문 횟수 파악 등을 통한 타겟 마케팅 및 개인 맞춤 서비스 제공의 목적으로 쿠키 등을 사용합니다 2 쿠키 설정 방법 이용자는 쿠키 설치에 대한 선택권을 가지고 있습니다 따라서 웹브라우저에서 옵션을 설정함으로써 모든 쿠키를 허용하거나, 쿠키가 저장될 때마다 확인하거나, 모든 쿠키의 저장을 거부할 수 있습니다 단, 이용자가 쿠키 설치를 거부할 경우 서비스 제공에 어려움이 있을 수 있습니다 – 쿠키 설정 방법 인터넷 익스플로러 11 0을 사용하고 있는 경우 「도구」메뉴에서「인터넷옵션」을 선택합니다 「개인정보 탭」을 클릭합니다 「고급」을 선택하여 자신에게 맞는 쿠키 허용 수준을 설정합니다 – 받은 쿠키를 보는 방법 익스플로러 11 0을 사용하고 있는 경우 「도구」 메뉴에서 「인터넷 옵션」을 선택합니다 「일반」 탭을 클릭합니다 ‘검색 기록’ 의 「설정」으로 들어가서 「파일 보기」에서 확인합니다 – 쿠키 설치 거부 방법 인터넷 익스플로어 11 0 사용하고 있는 경우 「도구」 메뉴에서 「인터넷 옵션」을 선택합니다 「개인정보 탭」 을 클릭합니다 「기본값」에서 상위 레벨을 선택하여 “모든 쿠키 차단”으로 설정합니다 4 개인정보 수집 항목 및 수집 방법 1 개인정보 수집 항목 회사는 최초 회원 가입 또는 서비스 이용 시 이용자로부터 아래와 같은 개인정보를 수집하고 있습니다 구분 자세한 내용 ① 필수 항목 ◻︎ 이름, 이메일, 국가정보 ◻︎ 파트너십 또는 서비스 신청 시 이용자가 제공한 이용자가 속한 회사 및 단체에 관한 정보와 이용자가 개발 중인 앱 또는 서비스에 관한 정보 ◻︎ 홈페이지 이용 기록 ※ 회사는 이용자의 사생활을 현저히 침해할 우려가 있는 민감정보 사상·신념, 노동조합·정당의 가입·탈퇴, 정치적 견해, 건강, 성생활 등에 관한 정보 등 는 수집하지 않습니다 ※ 회사는 원칙적으로 이용자가 만 14세 미만 자일 경우 개인정보를 수집하지 않습니다 서비스 이용을 위하여 만 14세 미만자의 개인정보를 부득이 수집할 때에는 사전에 법정대리인에게 동의를 구하고, 관련 업무가 종료됨과 동시에 해당 정보를 지체 없이 파기하며, 업무가 진행되는 동안 개인정보를 철저히 관리합니다 2 개인정보 수집 방법 회사는 다음과 같은 방법으로 개인정보를 수집합니다 홈페이지, 서면양식, 이메일∙상담게시판등을 통한 수집 파트너십 신청 및 베타서비스 참가 신청 등 신청 폼을 통한 수집 ※ 회사는 이용자가 회사의 개인정보 수집·이용 동의서의 각 내용에 대해 "동의" 또는 "동의하지 않음"을 선택할 수 있는 절차를 갖추고 있습니다 5 개인정보의 수집∙이용목적 회사는 수집한 개인정보를 다음의 목적을 위해 사용합니다 목적 자세한 내용 ① 본인 확인 개인정보 처리 및 정보주체의 개인정보 열람, 정정, 삭제, 처리정지 요구 등 본인확인 ② 서비스 제공 sdk 다운로드, 기술 관련 문의 응대 및 파트너십 요청에 대한 응대 제공 ③ 고지 및 안내 삼성 개발자 포털 개인정보 처리방침 및 약관 변경사항 고지 ④ 이용자 분석 및 서비스/웹사이트 개선 이용자 사용 패턴 분석을 통해 필요시 서비스 및 웹사이트에 대한 개선 조치 진행 ⑤ 포털컨텐츠 관련 정보 제공 sdk 업데이트 신규 sdk 정보 제공 및 관련 행사 소식 전달 ⑥ 이벤트 홍보 등 홍보성 정보 전송 수집된 연락처를 통해 홍보성 정보 전송 가능 6 제3자에게의 개인정보 제공 회사는 원칙적으로 이용자의 개인정보를 외부에 제공하지 않습니다 다만, 아래의 경우는 예외로 합니다 법령의 규정에 의거한 경우, 수사 목적으로 법령에 정해진 절차와 방법에 따라 수사기관의 요구가 있는 경우 유료 서비스 제공에 따른 요금 정산을 위하여 필요한 경우 통계 작성, 학술연구, 시장조사를 위해 특정 개인을 식별할 수 없는 형태로 가공해서 제공하는 경우 이용자가 사전에 동의한 경우 7 개인정보의 보유 및 이용 기간 회사는 원칙적으로 개인정보의 수집 및 이용목적이 달성된 후에는 해당 정보를 지체 없이 파기합니다 단, 관련 법령의 규정에 의하여 보존할 필요가 있는 경우 회사는 아래와 같이 관련 법령에서 정한 일정한 기간 동안 개인정보를 보관합니다 이 경우 회사는 해당 정보를 별도의 데이터베이스 db 로 옮기거나 다른 장소에 보관합니다 보유 항목 보유 기간 법적 근거 계약 또는 청약철회 등에 관한 기록 5년 전자상거래 등에서의 소비자보호에 관한 법률 대금 결제 및 재화 등의 공급에 관한 기록 5년 전자상거래 등에서의 소비자보호에 관한 법률 소비자의 불만 또는 분쟁처리에 관한 기록 3년 전자상거래 등에서의 소비자보호에 관한 법률 신용 정보의 수집/처리 및 이용 등에 관한 기록 3년 신용 정보의 이용 및 보호에 관한 법률 표시/광고에 관한 기록 6개월 전자상거래 등에서의 소비자보호에 관한 법률 이용자의 인터넷 등 로그기록/ 이용자의 접속지 추적 자료 3개월 통신비밀 보호법 그 외의 통신 사실 확인 자료 12개월 8 개인정보의 파기절차 및 파기방법 개인정보의 파기절차 및 파기방법은 다음과 같습니다 1 파기절차 이용자의 개인정보는 목적이 달성된 후 별도의 db 종이의 경우 별도의 서류함 로 옮겨져 내부 방침 및 기타 관련 법령에 의한 정보보호 사유에 따라 “7 개인정보의 보유 및 이용 기간” 참조 일정 기간 보관된 후 파기됩니다 별도의 db로 옮겨진 개인정보는 법령에 의한 경우 외에는 보유되는 목적 이외의 다른 목적으로 이용되지 않습니다 2 파기방법 회사는 기록을 재생할 수 없는 기술적 방법을 사용하여 전자적 파일형태로 저장된 개인정보를 삭제합니다 종이에 출력된 개인정보는 분쇄나 소각을 통해 파기됩니다 9 개인정보의 위탁 및 국외 이전 회사는 서비스 제공을 위해 필요한 경우에 한해 아래와 같이 서비스 별로 개인정보의 처리 업무를 외부 전문 업체에 위탁합니다 회사는 개인정보의 처리를 위탁하는 경우 개인정보 보호에 만전을 기하기 위하여 개인정보 보호 관련 지시 엄수 의무, 개인정보에 대한 비밀유지 의무, 제3자 제공 금지 및 사고 시 책임 부담 의무, 위탁 기간 이후 및 처리 종료 후 개인정보의 반환 또는 파기 의무 등을 명확히 규정하고, 수탁업체가 개인정보를 안전하게 처리하도록 감독합니다 회사는 수탁업체나 위탁 업무의 내용이 변경될 경우, 이를 웹사이트에 공지 또는 서면·이메일·전화·sms 등의 방법으로 개별 공지 합니다 수탁업체의 명칭 위탁하는 업무의 내용 tecace software, ltd ◻︎ 서비스 제공을 위한 시스템 개발 및 운영, 시스템 모니터링 등 salesforce com ◻︎ 고객 정보 분석 및 관리 zendesk inc ◻︎ 고객 문의 사항 응대 mailchimp ◻︎ 월간 뉴스레터 발송 및 정보 제공 메일 발송 credly inc ◻︎ digital credential 프로그램 운영 amazon web services inc ◻︎ 개인정보가 저장된 클라우드 서버 운영 및 관리 google inc ◻︎ 삼성 개발자 포털 이용자 통계 분석 주식회사 큐로드 ◻︎ galaxy theme/galaxy watch face 파트너 검수 삼성에스디에스 주 ◻︎ 시스템 운영 및 관리 주식회사 리시드 ◻︎ samsung health 서비스 파트너 검수 또한 일부 개인정보의 경우, 서비스 제공 및 이용자 편의 증진 등을 위하여 국외 업체에 위탁, 보관하고 있습니다 <국외이전 사항> 이전 받는 업체명 및 연락처 tecace software, ltd , contact@tecace com 이전되는 국가 미국 이전 일시 및 방법 서비스 이용 시점에 네트워크를 통한 전송 이전되는 개인정보 항목 4 1 항의 수집 항목 이전 받는 자의 이용 목적 및 보유∙이용 기간 개인정보 보관 기간 동안 개인정보가 보관된 시스템 개발 및 운영 이전 받는 업체명 및 연락처 salesforce com, https //www salesforce com/kr/form/contact/contactme/ 이전되는 국가 미국 이전 일시 및 방법 서비스 이용 시점에 네트워크를 통한 전송 이전되는 개인정보 항목 4 1 항의 수집 항목 이전 받는 자의 이용 목적 및 보유∙이용 기간 개인정보 보관기간 동안 고객 정보 분석 및 관리 이전 받는 업체명 및 연락처 zendesk inc , https //www zendesk com/contact/ 이전되는 국가 미국 이전 일시 및 방법 서비스 이용 시점에 네트워크를 통한 전송 이전되는 개인정보 항목 이름, 이메일, 문의 내용 이전 받는 자의 이용 목적 및 보유∙이용 기간 개인정보 보관 기간 동안 기술 문의 응대 및 지원 문의 응대 이전 받는 업체명 및 연락처 mailchimp, https //mailchimp com/contact/ 이전되는 국가 미국 이전 일시 및 방법 서비스 이용 시점에 네트워크를 통한 전송 이전되는 개인정보 항목 이름, 이메일, 국가 이전 받는 자의 이용 목적 및 보유∙이용 기간 개인정보 보관 기간 동안 뉴스레터 서비스 운영 이전 받는 업체명 및 연락처 credly inc , https //info credly com/contactus 이전되는 국가 미국 이전 일시 및 방법 자격 조건이 발생한 경우, 네트워크를 통한 전송 이전되는 개인정보 항목 이름, 이메일 이전 받는 자의 이용 목적 및 보유∙이용 기간 digital credential 프로그램 운영, 프로그램 운영 기간 동안 보유 이전 받는 업체명 및 연락처 google inc , https //analytics google com/ 이전되는 국가 미국 이전일시 및 방법 웹 사이트 내에 방문자 서비스 이용 시점에 네트워크를 통한 전송 이전되는 개인정보 항목 쿠키, 기기 브라우저 관련 데이터, ip 주소, 사이트/앱 활동 수집 개인 식별 정보 미전송 이전 받는 자의 이용 목적 및 보유·이용 기간 웹사이트에서 일어나는 사용자 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침해를 방지합니다 네트워크 상에서 개인정보를 안전하게 전송할 수 있는 암호화 전송 방법인 보안장치 secure socket layer, ssl 를 채택하고 있습니다 해킹 등 외부 침입에 대비하여 각 서버마다 침입차단시스템 및 취약점 분석 시스템 등을 도입하고 보안에 만전을 기합니다 개인정보와 일반 데이터를 섞어서 보관하지 않고, 별도의 서버에 분리하여 보관합니다 개인정보 취급 직원의 최소화 및 교육 이용자를 직접 상대하여 마케팅 업무를 수행하는 자, 개인정보 보호 책임자 및 담당자 등 개인정보 관리업무를 수행하는 자, 기타 업무상 개인정보의 취급이 불가피한 자 등으로 이용자의 개인정보에 대한 접근 권한을 제한합니다 개인정보를 취급하는 직원을 대상으로 새로운 보안 기술 및 개인정보 보호 의무 등에 관한 정기적인 사내 교육 및 외부 위탁교육을 실시합니다 입사 시 전 직원이 보안서약서를 작성하게 함으로써 사람에 의한 정보 유출을 방지합니다 또한 개인정보 보호 조치의 이행사항 및 직원의 준수 여부를 감사하기 위한 내부 절차를 갖추고 있습니다 개인정보 취급자의 업무 인수인계는 보안이 철저하게 유지된 상태에서 이뤄지며, 입사 및 퇴사후 개인정보 사고에 대한 책임을 명확화합니다 전산실 및 자료 보관실 등을 특별 보호구역으로 지정하여 출입을 통제합니다 2 링크 제공 방침 회사는 다른 회사의 웹사이트 또는 자료에 대한 링크를 이용자에게 제공할 수 있으며, 이용자는 제3자가 개발한 제품 및 서비스를 삼성 서비스를 통해 사용할 수 있습니다 예를 들어, 제3자가 개발한 어플리케이션을 삼성 갤럭시 스토어에서 다운로드하여 사용하는 경우 등 이 경우, 회사는 제3자의 사이트, 자료, 제품 및 서비스에 대해 아무런 통제권이 없으므로, 제3자로부터 제공받는 제품 및 서비스나 자료의 유용성에 대해 책임 지거나 보증할 수 없습니다 회사가 제공한 링크를 클릭 click 하여 타 사이트 site 의 페이지로 옮겨갈 경우, 해당 사이트의 개인정보 보호 정책은 회사와 무관하므로 새로 방문한 사이트의 정책을 검토해 보시기 바랍니다 3 게시물 운영 방침 회사는 이용자의 게시물을 소중하게 생각하며 변조, 훼손, 삭제되지 않도록 최선을 다하여 보호합니다 다만, 아래의 경우는 예외로 합니다 스팸 spam 성 게시물 타인을 비방할 목적으로 허위 사실을 유포하여 타인의 명예를 훼손하는 게시물 동의 없이 타인의 신상을 공개하는 게시물 회사 또는 제3자의 지적재산권 등 권리를 침해하는 내용의 게시물 기타 게시판 주제에 맞지 않는 게시물 회사는 바람직한 게시판 문화를 조성하기 위하여 이용자가 타인의 동의 없이 그 신상을 공개하는 경우, 해당 게시물의 특정 부분을 삭제하거나 기호 등으로 수정하여 게시할 수 있습니다 또한 해당 게시물의 내용이 다른 주제의 게시판에 적합하다면, 이를 옮긴 후 이동 경로를 밝혀 이용자가 오해하지 않도록 합니다 그 외의 경우는 명시적 또는 개별적인 경고 후 삭제 조치할 수 있습니다 게시물과 관련된 제반 권리와 책임은 기본적으로 작성자 본인에게 있습니다 또한 이용자가 게시물에서 자발적으로 공개한 정보는 보호받기 어려우므로 정보 공개 전에 심사 숙고하시기 바랍니다 4 이메일 무단 수집 거부 방침 회사는 게시된 이메일 주소가 이메일 수집 프로그램 또는 그 밖의 기술적 장치를 통하여 무단 수집되는 것을 거부합니다 이를 위반 시 「정보통신망 이용 촉진 및 정보보호 등에 관한 법률」등에 의해 처벌받을 수 있습니다 5 광고성 정보의 전송 회사는 이용자의 사전 동의 없이 영리목적의 광고성 정보를 전송하지 않습니다 개인정보 처리방침 버전번호 v1 1 개인정보 처리방침 수정일자 2022-02-09
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docseason 2, episode 7 previous episode | episode index | next episode this is a transcript of one episode of the samsung developers podcast, hosted by and produced by tony morelan a listing of all podcast transcripts can be found here host tony morelan senior developer evangelist, samsung developers instagram - twitter - linkedin guests eric cloninger, lead, developer relations team, samsung electronics chris shomo, infinity watchfaces listen download this episode topics covered sdc21, virtual conference history of the samsung developer conference conference audience keynote speakers conference announcements technical sessions expo floor galaxy store gallery code lab virtual reality after-hours party chris shomo, infinity watchfaces watch face studio 2020 best of galaxy store awards 2021 best of galaxy store awards bixby developers one ui beta samsung podcast platform smartthings helpful links sdc21, virtual conference - developer samsung com/sdc sdc18 highlights - youtube video sdc19 highlights - youtube video sdc19 replay - youtube video sdc21 preview - youtube video code lab - developer samsung com/codelab chris shomo, infinity watchfaces - youtube video watch face studio - developer samsung com/one-ui-watch 2020 best of galaxy store awards - youtube video 2021 best of galaxy store awards preview - youtube video bixby developers - bixbydevelopers com/ one ui beta - developer samsung com/one-ui-beta/index html samsung podcast platform - samsungpodcasts com/ smartthings - developer samsung com/smartthings samsung developers homepage - developer samsung com samsung developers newsletter - developer samsung com/newsletter samsung developers blog - developer samsung com/blog samsung developers news - developer samsung com/news samsung developers facebook - facebook com/samsungdev samsung developers instagram - instagram com/samsung_dev samsung developers twitter - twitter com/samsung_dev samsung developers youtube - youtube com/samsungdevelopers samsung developers linkedin - linkedin com/company/samsungdevelopers eric cloninger linkedin - linkedin com/in/ericcloninger/ chris shomo linkedin - linkedin com/in/christopher-shomo tony morelan linkedin - linkedin com/in/tony-morelan transcript note transcripts are provided by an automated service and reviewed by the samsung developers web team inaccuracies from the transcription process do occur, so please refer to the audio if you are in doubt about the transcript tony morelan 00 01 hey, i'm tony morelan and this is pow! the samsung developers podcast where we chat with innovators using samsung technologies, award winning app developers and designers, as well as insiders working on the latest samsung tools welcome to season two, episode seven today's show is a special episode of the pow! podcast last year, we were not able to have our annual samsung developer conference because of the pandemic but this year, we're back with sdc21, a virtual conference this coming october, i sat down with eric cloninger, who leads developer relations at samsung not only do we talk about some of the highlights from our past developer conferences, but what you can look forward to at this year's sdc21 enjoy hey, eric, welcome to the podcast eric cloninger 00 51 hey, tony glad to be here tony morelan 00 53 so i couldn't be more excited about this special episode where we get to chat about not only the past samsung developer conferences, but our upcoming sdc21 eric cloninger 01 03 yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun it is different this year for certain tony morelan 01 06 let me first start off by asking what exactly is the samsung developer conference, eric cloninger 01 11 samsung creates a lot of different platforms and sdks for developers to create for and integrate with so sdc is one of the ways we promote our platforms, and educate developers on their capabilities like many companies, we realized that developers add a lot of value to our products with their own creations so sdc is our opportunity to share knowledge and hopefully build a connection to the people that are making our products better tony morelan 01 36 yeah, and what's unique with sdc 21 is this year, it's actually going to be a virtual conference now we know that it's because the current pandemic we're in, but it's, i think, an opportunity for samsung really to reach to a much bigger global audience that will be able to come in and attend our conference eric cloninger 01 55 certainly, you know, in the years past, it's been a live event and there would be quite a few people there -- several thousand now with it being virtual, we have a much bigger audience and people can actually see the technical sessions as well as the keynote online even though it's not in person, it is still something that where we can share knowledge, and people can give us feedback on what they like and don't tony morelan 02 21 let's go back and talk a little bit about the history of sdc i think it started back in 2013 is that correct? that's correct eric cloninger 02 29 and i was there in 2014, talking about the gear watch tony morelan 02 34 development wow, that must have been pretty close to when we first launched the watch eric cloninger 02 39 i think it was the first gear s was the product that that i was working on and we were talking about development tools and how to write apps for those watches tony morelan 02 49 since then, we've done seven sdcs that, you know, there was a year i think around 2015 that we skipped and of course last year, we did have to hold off on doing an actual conference past locations, primarily san francisco in the bay area eric cloninger 03 06 it's been at moscone every year until 2019, when it moved to san jose so it's always been in the bay area somewhere that people who attend tony morelan 03 15 tell me about, you know, what is what is the audience eric cloninger 03 19 the audience is primarily developers and the content is really focused on that group a lot of samsung employees attend to give the technical talks and a lot to people come from all over the world to work in the booths and on the show floor in one sense sdc is like a family reunion, we get a chance to meet the people that we've emailed with and been on web conferences for a long time that's a chance to come together but it's also the fruition of a year of hard work, you'll whether it's virtual or in person, we can use the opportunity to celebrate and to share what we've worked on with third party developer community tony morelan 04 05 yeah, i know, my first sdc was 2018 that was in san francisco i hit started at samsung just a few months earlier than that so it was a great opportunity, really, for me to meet, not just some of these employees that had only been, you know, emailing with but a lot of the partners that we had a great report with sdc 19 eric cloninger 04 29 i think there was over 5000 close to 6000 people that it's been five to 6000 every year since that i've been here yeah, so that's a fairly good-sized conference tony morelan 04 37 so let's talk about some of the past keynotes and some of the big announcements that we've made going back to 2017 i think we had stan lee, is that correct? eric cloninger 04 47 yeah, stan lee from marvel was one of the main speakers that was pretty interesting in 2018, we had a lot of people watching because that's the day that they announced the galaxy fold wow so the first time anybody saw it was on stage at sdc and there were probably a half a million people watching live on either facebook live or youtube tony morelan 05 13 i remember my takeaway from sdc18 was tim sweeney for fortnite epic games? eric cloninger 05 18 absolutely on stage with one of our vps who was holding your tiny sword and shield you know, it just it added to the silliness, but also the fun was pretty, pretty fun tony morelan 05 33 oh, definitely now sdc 19 we had another very interesting person up on the stage talk a little bit about vitalik eric cloninger 05 41 yeah, vitalik buterin is the co-founder of ethereum and that year, we also had justin sun from tron the blockchain community is very interesting and it's definitely a new aspect for samsung is we had the blockchain wallet sdk that was coming out that year and so we wanted to have people that could talk about their interactions with it so vitalik and justin, were on stage in the spotlight session on day two tony morelan 06 09 yeah, that was pretty exciting actually, to see him up on stage they're in live in person so a big part of our conference are the technical sessions, it's a chance for the community really to learn about new and upcoming technologies talk a bit about some of those sessions that we've had in the past eric cloninger 06 27 so pretty much any of samsung's technical features sdks and services have sessions at sdc so if you're interested in ai and voice activated services, you can go to multiple bixby sessions, if you're into the internet of things and how to integrate into samsung smartthings ecosystem, there will be information there you know, as i mentioned previously, there's blockchain, there's the knox partnership for if you want to do secure computing, one ui if you're a designer, and all the new foldable phones and devices out there, there's a lot of content around how to handle app continuity and the flex mode, as well as the unique things about foldable design that you can learn about, as well as things like samsung health and how to design for themes there's a wide range of technical sessions for pretty much anybody at any experience level tony morelan 07 24 yeah, yeah, in my area of involvement with the developer conference has been around that design side i mean, as you know, my background is in design, you know, when we are giving the sessions on theme, designing watchface designing that that's really where i get my involvement with so a lot of fun for me to be at the conference walking around the expo floor has been one of the most exciting things for me to be there because truthfully at these different conferences, you just don't know what you're going to see and i remember walking in the room if it was sdc 18 or 19 but seeing this awesome car on the expo floor, the harmon car eric cloninger 08 00 yeah, the great thing about the expo floor is where you, you get to do a lot of the kind of non-technical learning it's a great place in a more relaxed atmosphere to meet and talk to people about what's going on so the harmon car harman is a subsidiary of samsung, and they create high end audio equipment so i'm sure you're familiar with brands like harman, kardon, or jbl, or infiniti, all very high-end brands harman also creates infotainment systems and telematics solutions for automakers and so what they would do for several years is they would bring a car onto the show floor and deck it out with a lot of the latest software and hardware, as well as the audio systems for the attendees to sit in the car and try it out unfortunately, they wouldn't let us drive it around the show floor obviously tony morelan 08 47 i will say i actually did ride the elevator with the person who drove the car from southern california up to northern california for the show so i did get to ask a little bit about you know what it is like to get behind the wheel of that car and she said it was an absolute blast to drive it up five eric cloninger 09 04 i'm sure they had to go the speed limit though tony morelan 09 06 definitely i know that smart things back in 14, one of our first conferences they actually set up like what they call the connected home eric cloninger 09 14 yeah, it was actually a full size when not full sizes about a 900 square foot, you know, a 30 by 30 area where they had different rooms and inside each of those rooms, they would have different ways that you could integrate different iot solutions into the smart home tony morelan 09 32 now just to be clear, a 900 square foot home in san francisco actually is full size so in 2018, we did something i was actually pretty excited about we created what we called a gallery of theme so you know as you know, with the galaxy store, designers can publish their phone themes, but what we did is we took those designs and actually built like a museum gallery big, full size images of the different themes nicely framed, and people would walk around this gallery and not only see this beautiful, much larger than life theme design but this was a gallery where at the end of the conference, we actually raffled off the different pieces, eric cloninger 10 15 it really shows how we have a lot of incredibly creative people who are creating work for the galaxy store, and samsung galaxy devices all of those things that were shown in that that gallery are available for anyone to download and purchase on the galaxy store tony morelan 10 31 yeah, i know that that gallery really, really was a success in a lot of people really enjoyed seeing that worked in person another area of the floor that i saw had a lot of activity was code lab, talking about what exactly is code lab at the at the conference eric cloninger 10 46 code lab is an interactive learning experience, you don't have to actually be present at sdc to be able to use it samsung employees create guided learning modules, with examples and downloadable code snippets that you can use to learn anything from android development, watch face design, or theme by the time you've gone through everything tony morelan 11 13 so if people want to learn more about code lab outside of the conference, where can they find that information, eric cloninger 11 18 you can find the code lab on the samsung developer portal at developer samsung com/codelab tony morelan 11 26 so i think one of the most exciting things that i saw happen on the expo floor was the vr team, they set up this like photography studio that talk about that eric cloninger 11 36 so in 2018, that team created what was called a volumetric camera setup so it had cameras in a lot of different positions in 360 degrees so they would take a very detailed scan of your body, and then they would print it out on a 3d printer and so that was really cool and then the following year, that same team took that that same type of technology, and they integrated it with a live interactive experience called delusion and delusion was a very creepy, interactive experience where you interacted with all of these crazy characters and because of the time of the year, it was october 29, and 30th so it's just the day before halloween, okay, you had all of these various characters that you were interacting with in a 3d experience and the thing that was cool about it was the second night, we had this, you know, after hours segment and those characters in the game that actually came to life, and you actually saw these people walking around that you had interacted with, in the interactive exhibit tony morelan 12 49 yeah, i remember that being a very fun and freaky evening, i was i was working in one of the booths behind the scenes doors were closed and as they were prepping for the opening of the of the doors, the fog machine was rolling, that people started rushing in and then i saw those characters that had been in that interactive space, actually walking amongst the people and there were a few times that in a fun way, those a little not at ease with them with those different folks eric cloninger 13 23 yeah, it was kind of a creepy experience because some of those characters, i mean, they stayed in character, and they got to look right through you and it just it was very creepy experience so the after-hours is a lot of fun at you at sdc as it is, with a lot of events, it's an it's an opportunity to kind of be a lot more relaxed you'll see some people that you saw in the, the technical sessions earlier in the day, and you have a chance to maybe drill down a little deeper while you have, you know, a plate of food and beverage in your hand so it's a good experience overall and you know, to be honest, i'm looking forward to when we can do that again tony morelan 14 02 yeah, yeah, hopefully, hopefully that will be next year so i thought it would be nice if we brought in a designer slash developer who has been very involved with the samson community and who has not only attended and many of the past sdc conferences, but was also invited to speak at one of the past sessions chris shomo, from infinity watchfaces eric cloninger 14 20 hey, chris, welcome to the show chris shomo 14 23 hey, thank you for having me on here tony morelan 14 25 yeah, no, it's great it's great to have you on the podcast so looking back at the samsung developer program, chris has been one of those resources that we've turned to many times and it simply comes down to not only your success, but your willingness to share and, and really help grow the entire ecosystem for samsung watchfaces and galaxy devices chris shomo 14 43 well, one thing that i've learned is all about the community that's one of the reasons i love to share things that i find out because i've also reached out to other designers and ask them, you know, hey, how do you do this? how do you do that? and they're more than willing to share back so it really is a given take type of thing and you know, if you're nice, then you can find some answers that you're looking for out there tony morelan 15 04 there you go definitely and you know, honestly, the more success there is amongst all the designers just the more vibrant the galaxy store is just with, with lots of great content chris shomo 15 13 oh, yeah and just how it developed over time, too, because, like i've seen it, since the very beginning, when there was hardly anything on there and then just watching it explode to all these designs that you can't even imagine what's going to pop on there next it's exactly designed to blow me away all the time tony morelan 15 29 so chris is the person behind infinity watch faces, and truly is one of the first designers who started creating for the platform tell me what year was it that you actually started designing and selling on galaxy store? chris shomo 15 39 oh, goodness 2016 tony morelan 15 41 wow yeah so i actually did an episode on the podcast on chris last year, it was great episode, we talked about how you got your start creating for samsung and, and also that your house in savannah, georgia was featured in an episode of ghost hunters that it is haunted? chris shomo 15 56 yes, it is it's been quite an experience, even though i do believe that the ghost does appreciate me being here, i believe i do not know that but she's been pretty nice tony morelan 16 08 guys nice so if you want to learn much more about chris, go back to that episode and check it out it was it was a great show so in 2017, before i started working with samsung, you were actually invited to come out to san francisco and speak at the conference tell me about that chris shomo 16 22 wow, it was quite an experience and first off, it was my first developers conference, first type of any type of tech conference so i was a little nervous in the very beginning because here i am, i'm going to san francisco, and i'm getting ready to speak in front of a lot of other designers and developers what an experience it was great tony morelan 16 43 i'm sure it was nice to actually meet also the people, you know, not only at samsung, but then you know, some of the fellow developers that are part of this community chris shomo 16 51 yeah, and also met a lot of people that became future designers of for specifically watch faces, which was wonderful they always come back to me and be like, hey, i was there and i'm like, i remember you and you know, and they take off and they do very well yeah tony morelan 17 06 so i actually came across a video on youtube of you speaking at the conference and that's how i actually got my start how i first discovered that, you know, you can create these watch faces and, and start selling them for samsung now, i took it a step further and actually started working for samsung eventually chris shomo 17 23 yep and i think that's amazing i remember you sent me an email one time actually telling me that i had a typo on my website that's right and i was like, whoa, thank you, because it was just, uh, you know, no one wants a stupid typo on their website so i got that fixed and, and then i never knew that, you know, i'd be working with yeah, back and forth, like we are now and stuff so it's great it's amazing how everything is connected tony morelan 17 49 yeah so earlier this year, we announced a partnership with google and warehouse and introduced watch face studio to new tool for designing galaxy watch faces that are sold on the google play store when the tool was first developed, we asked you to be part of that early access team so can you tell me about that experience, how it is working with that tool, and what it's like to now publish on google play? chris shomo 18 10 well, first off, thank you for getting me in there and you recommended me for being part of that team and it was excellent to be part of it, because i was able to kind of push it to its limits for animations i had a really long animation, i was testing with it and i was sending it back and forth with samsung and it helped them iron out and smooth out how the animations were working on the watch and that was great and, you know, of course, there's going to be a little bit of growing pains in the very beginning we're working on that but it's been amazing how the team at samsung has been so responsive and to get the software right for us you can really create some masterpieces so i'm excited about this tony morelan 18 55 yeah, and that's why i thought it was so important to have you part of that team is because really your designs are not like the typical design i mean, you really do push the software to try and get the most out of it you know, they're there's fun, they're quirky, i mean animations are a huge part of your designs so is there anything new and exciting that we can anticipate coming out in the in the near future? chris shomo 19 15 oh, wow i don't really know myself because i kind of jumped around so much with these designs, which is another reason why yeah, i guess it's kind of unexpected and surprising when another one comes out at one time you'll have like dancing tigers in the next second you have dolphins and sea turtle swimming i'm working on getting one onto the google play store right now called flip out that has the dolphins and the sea turtles and then tiger time as well and then we got a giant eyeball for halloween that she's showing up so yeah, a bunch of different things tony morelan 19 48 you've got it in there they're super crazy they're very artistic chris shomo 19 51 thank you yeah, and it also one of the things that i like to concentrate on is trying to bring joy to people with the watch face is where they look at it and you know, just for a moment of time, they can actually, you know, take a break from reality, they get absorbed into the watch smile for a minute if that happens, and i know it's exceeded tony morelan 20 13 it also what i love is how you build in this sort of like goals where the watch will change, like, lets you step into an example, as you're reaching your different step goals throughout the day, your watch face then is also changing throughout the day chris shomo 20 27 and that started out of course, with the ties and watches and it worked with every one step goal percentage that they set with the watch and that was another thing that i'm glad i was in the beta because i was really expressing how much we needed a step goal percentage and to work with it, and they added it in after i requested it and it was really quick and of course there are some differences where we have to set the watch pace to its unique step goal as opposed to the user set step go but that's because of that they're trying to make it so it's compatible with all the different watches and where it was but that's cool, it opens up a new line of challenge faces where you can reach 1000 steps for this to happen 2000 steps for this to happen and i think it's really going to open the door for a lot of unique and creative designs tony morelan 21 17 you know, you brought up a great point that i always stress and that is how approachable samsung is to our developer community samsung really does listen to our developers and we actually want to have that one on one communications you know, through our different channels, it is really easy to reach out to us and we'll give you that that personal attention that we know our developers need when they're creating for samsung chris shomo 21 39 and i've really watched the developers program grow over time too because back in 2016 you know it was kind of a shot in the dark but everybody was like new to it samsung was new to this the watch faces and working with this well ready to be flooded of designers that are getting ready to come in and then every one of samsung embraced us we feel like we're part of a family tony morelan 22 02 thanks thanks, chris i got to thank you for jumping in and joining us on the podcast when sdc is back in person i hope to see you there, if not sooner, i will definitely be there chris shomo 22 10 count me in tony morelan 22 12 awesome thanks, chris thanks eric cloninger 22 15 it was great to hear from chris he's a part of the community of designers and developers that really make the galaxy store special tony morelan 22 22 yeah, he's been there from pretty much day one so it was great to catch up with chris and like i said, i can't wait to actually see him in person so it past sdcs, we've done what's called the best of galaxy store awards, i think, sec 18 was the first time that we did the show at the conference sec 19 that's when i actually hosted it down in san jose, it was great we have a lot of the winners actually, at the conference, we're able to recognize them for the great apps that they've created for galaxy store however, last year in 2020, because we did not have a conference, we did a virtual award show this was presented on youtube as a life premiere and it really actually was a lot of fun because we were able to reach out to a quite a big audience eric cloninger 23 09 one of the things i thought was cool about that once we all said in the chat room, it was in the early evening us time, but there were people logging in from russia and the czech republic and slovenia all of these developers and designers who had created things in one go is the middle of their night, but they were on there congratulating each other tony morelan 23 29 i think it really shows how the award show is really a global award show i mean we've got winners from all around the world winners from large companies down to indie designers and developers and it really is a huge, huge community eric cloninger 23 45 i think it shows how the galaxy store enables a lot of smaller operations, smaller individuals who may get lost in a larger organization that they can actually create something and monetize it and enjoy the success that they can have from their own work tony morelan 24 03 yeah, no that's very true that being said, though, there have been some pretty big names that we've recognized with awards in the past we've given awards to tik tok, epic games fortnite, microsoft with their franchise forza, top golf, that was another one and then there's a great company butterfly affected that his license big brands like spongebob, hello kitty, and star trek, it was great to see them recognized for their work eric cloninger 24 31 and also last year, for the first time, bixby developers had the opportunity to have their capsules judged and in 2020 the winner was spotify tony morelan 24 43 yeah, it was a lot of fun i actually worked on many of the trailers that were shown in the award show and spotify was one of the ones that i really, really enjoyed doing, not only the voiceover for but integrating the music and all the editing that was that was a lot of fun to work on that project and we look forward to that in 2021 eric cloninger 24 59 and so when is the award show this year tony morelan 25 05 so the award show will be part of sdc so that is on october 26 later on in the evening, though, we're going to be doing a premiere on youtube at 6pm eastern, and we will be participating in a live chat so we would love for, you know, not only the winners will be on participating in this live chat, but we would love just to have the community on there so we can all get together as a chance to, you know, congratulate the winners, and really talk about all of the great apps that were recognized during the award show eric cloninger 25 35 yeah, the one thing about this, that i think we did have a lot of fun with it last year, and we hope to have more fun this year in that chat session, the invitation goes out to really everyone who is interested in the galaxy ecosystem and that could be anybody who is a user or a consumer or a developer or a designer you know, we want to we want to celebrate everyone's hard work tony morelan 25 59 definitely, definitely and if you would like to actually go back and see who the previous winners are, and actually learn more about this upcoming award show, you can go over to developer samsung com forward slash awards to learn more about the best of galaxy store award show so let's talk about sdc 21 as you know, it's a virtual show that will be on october 26 where can people find out more information about registering to attend the virtual conference? eric cloninger 26 28 so the conference is free for anyone to attend, and you can learn more at developer samsung com slash sdc tony morelan 26 38 let's talk about some of the sessions what can you share about the sessions at sdc 21? eric cloninger 26 44 well, i don't want to steal any of the thunder from the product teams have been working so hard for the last year but it will tell you that most every technology team that is working on products at samsung will have something to talk about at sdc so if you're interested in the one ui beta, you'll learn a lot more about that at the sessions, the watchface tools, there's a podcasting platform that's brand new that i think you know something about, tony morelan 27 09 yeah, yeah, no, i am helping out the podcast platform team we're excited samsung has their new podcast platform, making it easy for users to listen to podcasts and we're really excited because in october, we're going to be expanding this platform to countries in europe so it's really a big deal you can check out my session and i kind of walk you through how it is that you submit your podcast to samsung so do you have any insight on what is going to be featured in the keynote, eric cloninger 27 38 i do have a little bit of information to share and one of the things that is always kind of fun with the keynote at sdc is that samsung president dj koh will be speaking as well as many other people from within the design and engineering teams at samsung as you know, the last physical sdc was in 2019, your seems like our world has kind of stopped but to be honest, the pace of technology keeps on moving and so nearly every samsung technology team will be there and they want to talk about all the innovation creation that they've done in the last two years so there'll be things announced for nearly every technology team from bixby and smartthings to mobile devices and smart tvs there's lots of information for developers that they will be able to use to create their own products for 2022 and beyond tony morelan 28 34 so really exciting sdc 21 is going to be october 26 eric cloninger 28 39 and if you want to attend, all you have to do is register at developer samsung com/sdc it's free to attend and we would love to see you there tony morelan 28 51 excellent hey, eric, thanks so much for being on the podcast super exciting to be back at it with sdc and i can't i can't wait for it eric cloninger 28 59 oh, absolutely it's really, it's the result of a year's worth of work by hundreds of people and we really want to share it with all the people out there tony morelan 29 10 yeah, it should be a great show right thanks, eric all right eric cloninger 29 13 thank you, tony closing 29 14 looking to start creating for samsung, download the latest tools to code your next app, or get software for designing apps without coding at all sell your apps to the world on the samsung galaxy store check out developer samsung com today and start your journey with samsung tony morelan 29 30 the pow! podcast is brought to you by the samsung developer program produced by tony morelan
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docseason 1, episode 12 previous episode | episode index | next episode this is a transcript of one episode of the samsung developers podcast, hosted by and produced by tony morelan a listing of all podcast transcripts can be found here host tony morelan product manager, samsung developers instagram - twitter - linkedin guest prasad rayala product manager, samsung electronics in this episode of pow, i interview prasad rayala, product manager for dex, the samsung technology that allows users to extend their galaxy mobile device into a desktop computing experience not only do we talk about the advantages for developers optimizing their apps for dex, but how easy it is to get started listen download this episode topics covered what is dex devices that run dex compatible operating systems optimizing apps for dex dex resources dex sample code security dex features getting started with dex helpful links learn about dex - samsungdex com develop for dex - developer samsung com/samsung-dex samsung dex overview - developer samsung com/samsung-dex/overview dex insights - insights samsung com dex code lab - developer samsung com/codelab dex forum - forum developer samsung com/c/samsung-dex/26 dex whitepaper - insights samsung com/2020/02/12/the-beginners-guide-to-samsung-dex-4/ youtube dex playlist - youtube com/playlist more about samsung dex samsung dex is a new user experience that extends the functionality of your android device to a pc-like environment connect your galaxy to your monitor or tv to bring it to life on the big screen an extension of android n's multi-window mode, there are no proprietary samsung apis needed to launch apps in samsung dex with just a usb cable, unlock your phone's possibilities on pc and mac through samsung dex and now with the note20, you can connect wirelessly to your smart tv using miracast transcript note transcripts are provided by an automated service and reviewed by the samsung developers web team inaccuracies from the transcription process do occur, so please refer to the audio if you are in doubt about the transcript tony morelan 00 02 hey, i'm tony morelan and this is pow! podcasted wisdom from the samsung developer program, where we talk about the latest tech new trends and give insight into all the opportunities available for developers looking to create for samsung on today's show, i interview prasad rayala product manager for dex, the samsung technology that allows users to extend their galaxy mobile device into a desktop computing experience not only do we talk about the advantages for developers optimizing their apps for dex but how he traveled to australia just before covid-19 hit, and with the borders closed he can't come back enjoy so i am super excited to have with me prasad rayala on the podcast i need to first ask who is prasad? prasad rayala 00 48 hey, thanks tony for having me i'm a product manager at samsung electronics america i cover knox mobile enrollment and knox managed products and recently i picked up dex as well and in my role i work with our internal teams to enable them with what's new with these products, how they can be offered to customers, and what challenges customers are facing in implementing these solutions on the other side, i work with our r&d teams to enhance these solutions based on feedback we receive from our customers and partners tony morelan 01 28 so how long have you been at samsung for? prasad rayala 01 31 a total of six years three years with samsung america and three years samsung dubai tony morelan 01 38 i didn't realize that she worked in dubai prasad rayala 01 40 yeah, but three years and then i moved to samsung us tony morelan 01 44 did you study tech when you were in college? prasad rayala 01 48 i am an engineer, but i studied civil engineering, how to construct buildings and bridges but i moved to it i started my career with as a programmer on the midrange systems is foreign during the y2k era, i then moved to java programming language and i've been working outsourcing company in india for over a decade while i was with them, i was posted to dubai, to manage the customer relationships there while i was in dubai, i came across an opportunity to join samsung to manage a large scale smart learning project where about 400 classrooms across the country need to be digitized with large displays in the classrooms and also provide devices for students to consume the content that was in 2013 and after completing the project, i moved to the mobility side and the knox was just launched at that time, and i was cast to spread the awareness of narcs work with partners the ecosystem, just take it to the market and i continued in that role for about three years and in 2016, i moved to the us and joined a global knock solution engineering team and since then i've done different roles like solution engineering, partner management, project management, and now product management tony morelan 03 21 you know, i recently did a podcast interview with the knox partner program prasad rayala 03 25 yes, those are excellent yeah i mean, it's a great initiative, how to help partners, build their solutions, get support, and actually work with samsung in promoting those solutions it's a nice platform tony morelan 03 39 see, it mentioned that you eventually made it to the us tell me where are you based out of right now prasad rayala 03 44 i work out of our mountain view office in the bay area we also have the north america or us r&d team also operates from majority of the knox r&d teams, engineering, product managers work out of that office as well tony morelan 04 00 is that where you're at right at this moment, prasad rayala 04 02 as of this moment, i'm in melbourne, australia my family lives here and i came to visit them, middle of march and since then, i'm stuck here because of the border closures on both sides so i continue to work remotely leveraging all the technical capabilities my company provided, including decks, tony morelan 04 24 like i can imagine what that must be like, you know, glad to know that you and your family are safe and that you're able to continue working hopefully soon, the borders will open and you'll be able to come home but i'm just not sure when that's gonna be let's talk a bit more about dex now, what exactly is dex? prasad rayala 04 41 so samsung dex is a software platform that extends your smartphone or tablet into a desktop computing experience it is built into many of the latest samsung smartphones and tablets it's free you don't have to buy anything lily to get started using decks is just a monitor, hdmi adapter and peripherals like keyboard and mouse and with our latest galaxy note 20, you can use decks wirelessly on most of your tvs that support mirror cast the best part is while you are running decks on the monitor, you can continue to use your device at the same time so you're attending a video conference on the biggest screen, but you can also take notes or browse through your emails on your device at the same time tony morelan 05 33 so i know my first experience with decks was a little over a year ago and back then i actually had to stick it into a cradle so you're saying now it's prasad rayala 05 43 it's miracast? yes, you connect your larger display to mirror cast wirelessly when dex was launched with galaxy s eight yes, there were a couple of hardware accessories like cradle was required to plug it in we graduated from their two wireless connectivity now there are certain limitations like how many number of apps you can run while you're connected wirelessly but you have the option of just going into a meeting room connecting to a display wirelessly and running your presentations off your phone tony morelan 06 18 so can you tell me where did the name dex come from? what does that mean? prasad rayala 06 22 yeah, anything ending with x is very catchy, right? but dex is a short version of desktop experience so when you activate it by connecting your phone or tablet or monitor you get the familiar look and feel of a desktop environment with features and functions you're used to like multiple and resizeable, windows, keyboard shortcuts, and drag and drop etc tony morelan 06 51 do users need to install any special apps or using these special api's to enable samsung dex on their devices? prasad rayala 06 58 no, no special application required, it's pre built on the device firmware you don't have to install anything we just need to connect device to a monitor with the cable and dex will launch automatically an it administrator on the other side can control the text experience like allowing or disallowing enabling decks and choosing which applications can run index mode okay, this can be done using their preferred e&m solution tony morelan 07 27 definitely for security that's an important aspect is dex only compatible with android? or is it compatible beyond android os prasad rayala 07 36 so dex can be used in three different variations to meet various needs first, you can use it by connecting your samsung android device to a monitor or you can run it in standalone mode on the tablet screen without connecting to a monitor or you can use your pc or mac by installing an application on the mac or pc and connect your device through usb cable and run dax on your existing laptop or mac but the experience itself is powered by the software in both on samsung smartphones and tablets, tony morelan 08 15 so what applications can i use index mode? prasad rayala 08 18 pretty much any android application that's running on your device can be run in dex mode, all your favorite business applications like microsoft office, mobile suite, adobe apps for creative professionals, video conferencing apps like microsoft teams, webex, zoom bluejeans, etc wow, okay yeah, and if you are relying on legacy windows applications that do not have mobile or web versions, you can use virtual desktop applications like vmware or citrix within dex to access a full windows desktop from your phone and it's not just all work, you can have some fun too you can play your favorite games on a biggest screen and use your keyboard mouse gaming keyboard and mouse to play to control the game experience on a bigger screen tony morelan 09 14 wow, i didn't know that that's, definitely a great advantage yeah so let's talk a bit about developing for deck so if i'm a developer, why should i optimize my app for decks? prasad rayala 09 24 yeah, based on some market research, we found the majority of it workers use two or more devices for work, phone, laptop, tablet, laptop, desktop, etc at least two when multitasking between these devices, productivity is lost due to compatibility between the operating systems and applications samsung dex minimizes this fragmentation by bringing pc like experience to your mobile devices applications optimized for dex can take advantage of android's multi window features where users can open multiple apps in the same session to work, connect, and interact seamlessly together because these applications will be running on a larger screen index mode, you can use additional features like drag and drop files between windows copy paste between multiple applications and navigate between apps with your familiar keyboard shortcuts tony morelan 10 29 you know, we talked a little bit about covid how you're in australia at the moment because of the borders you know, pretty much the country is working from home so can you talk a bit about the benefits of developers optimizing their apps considering that people are now working at home more? prasad rayala 10 45 yeah, i mean, the the obscene shift in many things that we are usually doing say working from home for an hour is different from working from home for six months teaching kids for a couple of hours from home is different from remote learning toward the day so enabling the secure and productive work from home setup is one of the core use cases of tech's imagine you're about to jump onto a video conferencing call with your team on your laptop, and it decides to go through a noise tony morelan 11 21 yes, yes, prasad rayala 11 22 right at that moment, or you get a blue screen you don't have to reschedule your call, you can just connect your phone to the monitor and fire up your decks and join the call you can continue checking your emails, take notes or even collaborate with your team by sharing your screen while you are on the video conferencing kind of launch through decks if you need access to windows native applications, yes, you can fire up video solution like citrix or vmware and if you have an application running in education space to say students will be able to utilize a large screen to access your solution and use the s pen on the tablets to take notes while attending a session tony morelan 12 08 that's great with this whole distance learning, any sort of tools that we can offer to our students to yeah, to help is prasad rayala 12 14 definitely a huge benefit so my son school is using google classroom and they share a lot of material for kids to work on some math worksheets, etc he's been printing them and writing on them and scanning and sharing with their teachers i told him, why don't you use your s pen so now he's converting it into a pdf? he's editing writing on the tablet itself, just saving it locally and sharing with his teachers we're reducing a lot of printing at home and saving some yes, tony morelan 12 52 definitely definitely that's great so what has samsung decks done to drive awareness for developers prasad rayala 13 00 yeah since the launch of deck samson has worked closely with the developer community in enabling business applications to take advantage of the benefits offered by decks every year at samsung developer conference there are dedicated talk tracks and hands on labs were offered a lot of articles and videos around how dex is enabling certain use cases in verticals like public safety, health care, and education these are published on samsung insights portal and there is a dedicated section on the developer website for samsung to help developers start the journey and optimizing their apps for tax tony morelan 13 43 that's excellent any chance that there's some sample code out there for developers who want to take a look at it and understand a little bit more? prasad rayala 13 49 absolutely there are hands on videos on the developer samsung com how to optimize the applications and there is some sample code explaining each optimization they can do these videos are great like, you can just pause them and make changes to our app and there are instructions on how to test your application, how it's running on dex, etc there are a lot of resources on developer samsung com tony morelan 14 18 that's, that's great so we talked a little bit about your experience with knox so let's talk about what has dex done related to security prasad rayala 14 27 so dex doesn't really interfere with security it fully complies with the policies set by administrator through the mmm say you want to attach a picture you took on your phone to your email and if your administrator has blocked access to the usb ports on your laptop, for security reasons how will you send your picture to your email you will either email it to yourself or to a third party cloud store is both are not productive enough not secure enough so with decks, you'll have that seamless access of your local files on your device, which you can just drag and drop these files onto your email client running on your device itself so no more emailing it yourself or uploading to a third party file sharing system you can also leverage your biometrics to set up samsung pass on on your device to access your online accounts without having to type in your password every time on the personal side if you are using the secure folder where you might have installed sensitive applications, like banking or you store sensitive information, you can continue to use it dex won't interfere with secure folder tony morelan 15 49 so i had mentioned earlier that the version of dex that i had was where i put my device into a cradle so i know that dex has evolved so talk a little bit about where dex originated from and but it's become prasad rayala 16 00 yeah then so the mobile devices is not designed to run multiple applications at the same time right so yes, there can be background applications running but user typically interacts with to one application at a time there is no multi window but as dex enables this multi windows feature, the device can heat up pretty quickly so the first version of dex when it was introduced on galaxy s eight, there was a docking accessory called the deck station or a dex pad was required to start the desktop experience and connect to peripherals so these accessory had a little fan inside to keep the device cool and ports to connect your keyboard and mouse and hdmi back your monitor with node nine, the need for these docking accessories really was eliminated by introducing the next hdmi adapter simple cable or a multi port adapter if you need to connect your peripherals in 2019 with the launch of node 10 decks for pc was introduced i talked before where you can install an application on your pc or a mac and access decks right from your computer with no today don't need any wires, any cables, you can just connect your phone to your miracles supported this tvs wirelessly tony morelan 17 29 so you had mentioned a little bit about multi window are there any other specific types of optimizations? that can be done? prasad rayala 17 36 yeah, i think minimum decks optimized application should support multiwindow keyboard mouse inputs and handle runtime configuration changes generally, if an app follows best practices of android programming, it will successfully run index mode without any code changes okay? there are no samsung specific sdk to integrate our api's to call multi window support enables minimizing, maximizing and resizing the application window only the manifest file needs to be updated to support this feature to enable keyboard and mouse support, you just do not explicitly declare touch screen support in your manifest and keep in mind that when an application switches between mobile and dex mode, runtime configurations change, this is similar to an orientation change from portrait to landscape these runtime configuration changes may result in forcing the application to restart when switching between mobile and x mode you don't want a webex session that you joined from phone to restart when you launch decks mode to avoid this, just follow androids guideline on handling configuration changes and best practices for building a responsive design that seems tony morelan 18 51 pretty straightforward what about some new decks features like finger gestures are drag and drop? prasad rayala 18 57 yeah, so drag and drop, copy paste these features have been there, right from the beginning the finger gestures you're mentioning is how you use your device screen as a touchpad when you are in dex mode by connecting your device to the monitor if you do not have a mouse, you can convert your device screen as a touchpad to interact with decks and run just like a traditional touchpad on a laptop a single tap on your phone screen is same as your mouse left click, a double tap is like a right click, you can pinch your fingers to zoom etc tony morelan 19 35 so what types of apps then are developers optimizing for decks? prasad rayala 19 39 so any application used in a workplace setting right? productivity suites, your vdi applications video conferencing, or specific vertical focused applications like say healthcare or education these are all applications that can be optimized any application that can benefit from a desk stop experience running on a larger screen is a candidate for optimization it's not just limited to, again, work apps, you can optimize some of your games as well, if you will, that games can be educational my daughter is learning how to count by twos, threes, fours, she just started her multiplication and there are a lot of lessons out there router gamified and instead of watching those on a seven inch screen or a 10 inch laptop, i'm letting her watch those things on my samsung tv on a larger screen, and she's happy with it tony morelan 20 41 oh, that's that's excellent so let's talk about some of the challenges is a dex had to face any challenges that you can share? prasad rayala 20 48 yeah, so with dax, our goal is to close the gap between desktop and mobile computing experiences it won't happen overnight we need to build an ecosystem around next to support different use cases, we are pretty confident about meeting their mobile workers needs but we know we have some work to do in other verticals we are investing heavily in enhancing the core capabilities of the device itself to support different vertical use cases, along with live raising capabilities of our partners there are some exciting things on the roadmap so watch this space through this year and early next year tony morelan 21 30 excellent so let's talk about some of the areas of success then what can you share that that you're proud of the dex has accomplished prasad rayala 21 37 so we've seen dex adopted in almost all industries, saying healthcare of patient experiences improved to seamless continuity from doctors workstation to patient rooms and back again in retail the associate can use a single device to say browse through inventory, check prizes, or ask assist customers with checkouts all with a single device say in public safety officer can use his mobile phone while in the field or inside the vehicle or at the station, say in a insurance or construction space, you can consolidate your hardware so you have access to everything you need while in the field without having to go back and forth between devices so we we continue to work with our partners and customers now to identify different use cases in retail bank branches there's a nice use case where the bank associate can interact with the customer to a dual screen kind of mode where associate will be accessing, say presenting different loan options or critical options to the customer and the customer will be using a tablet or filling his or her personal information, both sharing the same device so they're nice use cases we are discovering our customers are help improving the product with the use cases they have in the specific vertical businesses tony morelan 23 15 yeah, and i, you know, i can totally see where you know, we're in the middle of this pandemic with covid it's pretty obvious that even when we get beyond this pandemic, i think our society is going to be making a shift towards how we're conducting a lot of our, you know, day to day business so just your example there of how working with bank institutions, and being able to share screens, but yet, stay within your device, i think is very, very advantageous, right so what advice do you have for developers looking to get started modifying their apps for decks, prasad rayala 23 49 so if you have never experienced vertex, you don't know how your application looks and feels on a larger screen just start simple enabled multi window keyboard shortcuts and just connect your device, launch your application and just see the magic these changes do not require any change in your core and just the manifest file, you can just make some changes and run it once you see how it runs on a larger device with resizable, windows and drag and drop, etc, then it'll force you to think outside that seven inch screen your application is designed to run on or you can then go on and explore more and provide unique features like the contextual menu, or using their mouse wheel to zoom in, say you have a map solution in your application you can use your mouse wheel to zoom in and out of the map, etc that's great tony morelan 24 45 so for a developer that wants to get started, what's the best way for them to learn more? is there a website that they can go to? prasad rayala 24 53 yeah, i mean, to understand what specific solutions are best optimized for dex checkouts samsung dex com it gives an overview of the solution itself, how it runs, how to enable it, what device is it run on, etc and while you're there, just go to text for business section to understand how it's used in different verticals you may be operating in a specific industry, it will help understand how dex is enabling use cases in that industry and there are a lot of videos on youtube on just decks both from samsung team and independent analysts users out there who tried decks for different use cases and finally, when you ready to start optimizing your application, go to developer samsung com and go to the deck section and follow the instruction start simple and just start optimizing your app tony morelan 25 49 that's that's great that sounds actually pretty darn pretty darn easy yeah so are there any news or any events coming up that we can get excited about from decks? prasad rayala 25 58 so as much as we wanted to be in front of our customers and partners but we couldn't do so with covid so we are going as much detail as possible have we had a two day virtually experience event in july where industry experts advised how businesses can adjust to the new normal we have also launched a series of online events called samson together, where we host one hour session with our partners to introduce new solutions we are bringing together to help our customers navigate these difficult situations we covered decks in detail in the last episode, very hands on demonstrations and use cases discussed etc so check out samson together this a series of one hour sessions and the last session covered decks in detail tony morelan 26 52 that's great that's great thank you for that and i will be linking to all of this in the show notes for this episode so make it easy for for our listeners to find those pages if people want to contact you or the decks team, what is the best way for them to do that? prasad rayala 27 06 so the instructions www developer samsung com are pretty self explanatory, a lot of videos and sample code, etc but if you still need help or send in a request with your question inside that portal, there is a dedicated team around the clock to help you with your classifications wherever you are in the world, there is a team in your timezone of answering your questions, make use of that contact form on the www developer samsung com tony morelan 27 36 excellent so a couple of last questions for you so the first thing i want to ask is, when you're not working, what do you do for fun? prasad rayala 27 44 so can you really say when you're not working now that you are at home and you're always hooked on to work? there is no there is no distinction between you're at work at home, you're always tony morelan 27 58 okay, so when you're outside and you're under plugged prasad rayala 28 00 so yeah, mostly i spend my time with my family also my work my toolkits keep me busy helping them with these remote learning or just keeping them busy when when they're not learning but if i can still sneak out some time, while mostly be exploring my neighborhood by walking, i love to go on slow, long walks and probably some hikes tony morelan 28 28 so the last question you had mentioned that you were studying as a civil engineer, and then you actually got to spend time in dubai what was that like with the i'm sure you were amazed with all the buildings that you saw there prasad rayala 28 40 to divide goes to the cycles of real estate boom and bust right when it's booming you you could see thousands of these cranes set up they do go vertical, because they need to make use of the limited the space they have they can't spread out so they go vertical in minimum you'll see like 3050 floors and all that so samsung office was on 51st 52nd floor and we could from there the palm jumeirah, clearly it there are a lot of engineering marvels a lot of great architecture there is a twisting and rotating tower so builders are competing to meet new and unique designs of their most challenging work environment, right, the temperatures constantly about 130 140 sometimes, it's very challenging sometimes it's just fun tony morelan 29 40 well, hey, prasad i absolutely appreciate you taking the time to join me on the podcast thank you very much prasad rayala 29 44 thanks, tony thanks for having me outro 29 47 looking to start creating for samsung, download the latest tools to code your next app, or get software for designing apps without coding it all sell your apps to the world on the samsung galaxy store, check out developer samsung com today and start your journey with samsung the pow! podcast is brought to you by the samsung developer program and produced by tony morelan
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docseason 1, episode 10 previous episode | episode index | next episode this is a transcript of one episode of the samsung developers podcast, hosted by and produced by tony morelan a listing of all podcast transcripts can be found here host tony morelan senior developer evangelist, samsung developers instagram - twitter - linkedin guest chris shomo infinity watchfaces in this episode of pow, i interview chris shomo from infinity watchfaces chris was one of the first designers to start selling watch faces on galaxy store and has become a very successful app designer along the way he has inspired many other designers to start creating for samsung with his willingness to share his knowledge and expertise listen download this episode topics covered galaxy watch studio for tizen galaxy themes studio galaxy store galaxy store badges social promotion jibber jab reviews jibber jab reviews live chat iot gadgets samsung galaxy watch facebook group tap reveal galaxy watch3 asset creator lifestyle photos chris shomo sdc17 video presentation transcript note transcripts are provided by an automated service and reviewed by the samsung developers web team inaccuracies from the transcription process do occur, so please refer to the audio if you are in doubt about the transcript tony morelan 0 02 hey, i'm tony morelan and this is pow! podcast of wisdom from the samsung developer program where we talk about the latest tech, trends and give insight into all of the opportunities available for developers looking to create for samsung on today's show, i interview chris shomo from infinity watch faces chris was one of the first designers to start selling watch faces on the galaxy store and has become one of the most successful along the way he's inspired many other designers to start creating for samsung with his willingness to share his knowledge and expertise in fact, it was a video i saw of chris who inspired me to start designing watch faces, which eventually led me to my gig at samsung so it is an absolute honor to bring him on to the podcast and let me warn you chris, and i'd love to talk and sometimes we go off on a few tangents, talking about how his house was not only featured in an episode of ghost hunters, but was also used in a big time hollywood movie and of course we talk a lot about designing and marketing apps for samsung enjoy tony morelan 0 58 i am super excited to have on the podcast today chris shomo from infinity watch faces so let me first actually start by asking who is chris shomo? chris shomo 1 05 hey, tony, thank you so much for having me on the show who is chris sharma i'm, i'm a lot of things i am a designer, which you know, initially, you know, when someone is a designer, they can be quirky, they can be geeky, sometimes they can be introverted sometimes or they can be outgoing it depends on my mood and the time of day, i can be a little bit of everything so, but you know, i can be the shy person in the room, but you get me talking about something that i'm interested in, and then sometimes you can't get me to shut up so i can absolutely relate to that, that you've pretty much have described my personality definitely, you know, being a fellow designer, and that's why i'm really excited about this podcast is that we can kind of geek out a bit as we're talking design cool so how did you first get your start in graphic design? oh, geez well, i guess it goes all the way back to when i was a little kid my mom always had me doing artistic projects for school actually, i would always find a way to make some sort of artistic project if i could for homework, i would always go to the art route it was a lot more fun and then in high school, i did a project it was a pennant drawing of the shakespeare globe theater and i did it for an english class and i decided to take an art class as an elective and mrs martin, my art teacher in high school, she asked for some examples of my previous work and out of my bookbag, i took out a folded piece of paper and then i just like unfolded it to this, this gigantic poster size of the shakespeare globe theater it was that that artistic drawing i did, and then she said, okay, lesson number one, do not fold up your artwork so, that's how i kind of got started and that drawing was pretty awesome and she kind of excelled me through she put me into the higher level art classes real quick they kind of skipped me a couple classes and i want a lot of awards against other students and some regional awards in the area and then afterwards, i decided to go to art school and my brother discovered the savannah college of art and design down savannah, georgia and yes, so yeah, i attended there wow so for a good while to almost like a van wilder experience but multiple degrees tony morelan 3 33 wonderful again, i could relate to that i definitely took the long route through college so straight out of college, then did you work for a large company? did you start your own your own gig? what did you what was your first step coming out of college? chris shomo 3 46 okay, well, i graduated with my undergrad in computer art with a focus on 3d animation and that was in 2005 and right after the i interviewed for some companies, and i just really did not want to be stuck in a cubicle, just you know, for the jobs that i was offered so i ended up taking a job for a contractor and helping build a house from ground up oh, wow and after that, i decided i was interested in architecture and i put together a portfolio and scad gave me a portfolio scholarship to come back and they paid for the masters and i got my masters in architecture tony morelan 4 21 wow i did not know that chris shomo 4 23 yeah so and of many secrets, i guess, some hidden talents there but i did graduate after the economy crashed, and it was really hard to find a job in architecture so i started a website design company and from there, i just kind of, you know, word of mouth i just kept on gaining clients until eventually i had clients all across the east coast so you went to school in savannah, georgia are you currently in savannah? is that where your offices based out of? yes, savannah is where my heart is i love the city and i'm actually president of the neighborhood association for the neighborhood that i'm in, and it's one of the largest neighborhoods in savannah okay and southern living magazine actually ranked the number one neighborhood to live in in the south as well right before all the craziness this year, we got that nation sure so it is quite interesting because it there's so many local businesses and residential neighborhoods in this neighborhood so just dealing with everything from alcohol licenses and giving our blessing and, you know, zoning issues and, you know, just figuring out what's going on with crosswalks and trash cans and all that kind of stuff you know, it's interesting tony morelan 5 40 so i actually heard a very interesting note about not just the neighborhood but the house that you live in yes, you once told me that it is actually haunted chris shomo 5 50 it is haunted and it's documented on a ghost hunters’ episode i believe it's 2010 home is where the heart is okay yeah, it's all about the current a family that was living there and their experiences with a ghost they say they've seen this ghost this little girl apparently, her name is tony clark and she's been appearing i guess for the past hour well, the previous owner salt or 200 times that's what they said 200 or more times, and ghost hunters did believe that there were dual entities in the house as well think okay, well, monique clark she is the daughter of the guy who built the house back in 1896 and he owned a lumber mill and he inherited this lumber mill from his father when he was 26 years old and he built a house known he was one of his daughters and apparently, she was one of the first women to receive a pacemaker for her heart and that led to her dying somehow i don't know what happened to it but she died when she was in her 50s but supposedly she's coming back is like a 12 year old girl i've never seen i've had some strange things happen in the house door slamming things disappearing from one place appearing in another place not my imagination other people have experienced things too but how she was identified is that the lady across the street had apparently, i recognize the description of the nightgown that she appeared in because she had made that night gown for her when she was young so getting a little cold chills thinking about it right now but it is interesting, but yeah, i don't feel scared in the house i think the house accepts me i have never had to smudge it or whatever you call it or you know, try to clear spirits out of there but it's an interesting story and it's always fun when somebody else experiences something tony morelan 7 46 oh, that is absolutely wild to hear you know, and we'll circle back to the whole aspect of design in this podcast i will note before i'm going to jump ahead just a little bit your designs have a little bit of a quirkiness to it and sometimes i'm seeing, you know, ghosts and aliens and the crazy thing so i think that may be where you're getting some of your inspiration chris shomo 8 08 yeah well, i mean, you live in a dynamic city, it's actually one of the most haunted cities in america sure you know, and it's one of the most wild cities in america too i mean, you have this, this local field, but then, at the same time, you know, it's one of the few places in america where you have an open cup, and, you know, take a drink from one bar to another downtown so it leads to a little bit of craziness but i myself pride myself in being a little crazy, you know, you have to be in this crazy world and i love surprising people with designs to light like one second yeah, you'll have a butterfly that looks realistic landing on your, on your watch and then the next moment, you know, you have some zombies that are appearing with your step, go biohazard z tony morelan 8 57 that's a great one yeah, definitely so we were fortunate actually to come out and visit you at savannah college of art and design where we came in hosted a session with your students, teaching them all about theme designing for phones and watch faces and that connection actually came through you so that was my opportunity to come out to savannah and get to meet you in person what a beautiful city i mean, it really in the campus itself to is pretty unique because from what i understand savannah college of art and design, they're like the number one occupancy of buildings in downtown is that correct? i mean, as far as the campuses is put together, chris shomo 9 32 yeah, it seems like it's every other building and it's really amazing what they've done for savannah they encouraged a lot of businesses to move in as well to cater to the students and they really played a huge role in where savannah is today you know, we get millions and millions of visitors every single year and schools to thank for a lot of that, you know, just the restoration projects and encouraging restoration and then of course, we have a great hit preservation society alone just in savannah being the oldest plant city in america, and in a genius plan to just how it integrates with all the giant oak trees that are in all the squares and people are really jealous of those, those oak trees and, you know, as a person living there, i always try to make sure that i go out and i do what the visitors do, just to remind myself, you know, what a beautiful city it is and then, you know, just going to school in those historic buildings as well it just it helps with the creativity and yeah, the location definitely helps with the whole artistic side of things tony morelan 10 39 yes, and for those who don't know, savannah is actually the city where they filmed the scene of forrest gump on the bench yep, that iconic moment in forrest gump where he's sitting on that bench that was in savannah at one of the squares i actually walked by that to take a look at that for myself just an amazing city chris shomo 11 00 and it's actually known for a lot of movies as well like the lady in the tramp that's on disney plus that was filmed they actually looked at my house to potentially film it there but they said that the lot was too big so they actually filmed it a few blocks down and yeah, and then also, my house is where the movie legend of bagger vance was filmed there's a scene where it's where the little kid lives the caddy and there's a whole scene at the dinner table where they're, they're talking and stuff that's my dining room oh, wow it was one of the houses the few houses around there that had a dining room with a view to the kitchen as well and they needed that for the scene so robert redford picked out the wallpaper it's kind of cool tony morelan 11 47 absolutely crazy yeah oh, wow i knew this podcast would be fun, but i have no idea so let's circle back around and let's talk a little bit about design okay, tell me how you first heard about the sample galaxy watch chris shomo 12 00 okay, well, i'm a tech geek i love any type of mobile tech, especially before the watches came out on i was like a cell phone fanatic like, you know, first we wanted them to get small and now they're getting bigger yes now we need the biggest phone ever, which i absolutely love but i was eyeing smartwatches for a while and finally i was like, okay, i'm getting one at the time i'm like, i couldn't really afford it but you know, i don't care i'm getting one so i went down to the best buy and i got the first gear s to sport i just loved it it was great but there was one thing that bothered me i needed more watch faces i was bored with the watch faces that were available and went on the it was galaxy apps before but now the galaxy store and you know, i even paid like i think it was like five or $10 for a watch face it looked like the coolest one out there then like, alright, how do i make my own? so that's when i just googled and i found it was the galaxy watch designer well, at the time, it was the gear watch designer 1 0 wow and, like, right when it first came out, i mean, i think i might have actually caught it within days of it coming out and i downloaded it, and i just started playing around with it and i never even planned on releasing any of them for anybody else i just, you know, wanted to make some for me and then i'm like, alright, look, i can, i can load some and see if i can make a few dollars let's do it so i think i made like $17 off of two watch faces the first day and then i'm just thinking to myself, like, you know, what if i have like 300 watch faces on there, you know, how much how much can i make her? so i mean, sure enough now gosh, i have about 394 watch faces and themes published wow, that's amazing and how long would you say this has been? oh gosh i started in i think it was february, early february of 2016 okay, so when i started, and you can actually kind of look back at some of my very early designs, and see how the design has improved over time sure the very first one that i did, i just called it gear spin and i didn't really know much about the designer, the software and everything i was just getting into, it didn't really think that i could even put a graphic on, you know, a watch hand and use it other than a watch hand at the time so i even animated a gear using adobe flash exported the frame animations out and threw it in there just to get a gear spinning sure now, i'll just put it on a second hand but i'm thinking coming from a designing standpoint, not a watch standpoint and, and that's something that you that you really have to start doing it start thinking, you know, i'm also a watchmaker in a way exactly, you know, so you got to start thinking, that language and that starts you know, meshing with the creative ideas and then you start, you know, you got to focus on functionality at the same time that you're trying to focus on dynamics and what it looks like, that sort of thing so tony morelan 15 11 that's true and you know, i do a lot of teaching to students just learning how to watch design and the challenges are that they've got this tool that can allow them to just do amazing graphics and amazing animations and then they forget that really, this is a time piece where people need to quickly tell what time it is so even though you can have a lot of fun with your graphics in your animation, you still need to make it where you know on quick notice, you can actually tell what time it is i mean, that's the whole the function of the watch and that's what i love with your designs as well i mean, you've got some amazing, fun, quirky, crazy designs i mean, everything from dogs and butterflies to spooky, eyeballs and reapers so let's talk a little bit about your approach to design and some of the tools you're using you had mentioned adobe flash so we're going back in the day oh gosh, yeah chris shomo 16 03 well, i don't use that anymore but i used to use that all the time tony morelan 16 07 so tell me kind of that your workflow, you know, when you know, from concept, your tools, are you sketching on pencil and paper when you have an idea, or do you just dive right into a software program? chris shomo 16 18 well, i guess this is where professors are going to want to smack me and i should be sketching more than that you know, scat always says, you start with the basics, and you start sketching, and i need to carry around a sketchbook but no, i kind of jump into the software first but in a way, i kind of sketch digitally i'll start with a program like adobe illustrator, just to get the basic shapes done and i'll move them into photoshop, of course, to get the nice effects to get the textures, some of the shadows or to create the shadow layers that you'll export separately later you know, those are our two the main tools of getting i guess, the framework of the of the watch, but of course, i like to do animations, so using a lot of after effects and premiere, and sometimes when i have to maya and all that kind of stuff, and then you know, getting it out to the, the frames, and also being very cautious about file size as well you know, we are dealing essentially with an app, even though it's very focused around design, which i'm very thankful thank you samsung for giving me awesome design software, where i don't have to code everything but, but you do have to remember that, you know, people will get frustrated if you have a, you know, a 50 megabyte watch face, which i mean, i could easily make one that large but it's all about understanding the compression and understanding your tools to make sure that when you deliver that watch face, it's fine, it's dynamic, it has all the effects but it doesn't take forever to install or it doesn't, you know, someone doesn't have an issue with it so understanding the technical side but really understand or design software tony morelan 18 02 that helps, you know, and you had mentioned a little trick that i may have actually learned from you in that where you had said that you know, your first animation was done using flash and bringing those in as animated gifs but you then said, hey, i could have just made this a watch hand and that's one of those tricks that when you realize that watch hands don't actually have to be watch hands it's the watch and feature is basically just a rotating graphic that you can then set its direction that it rotates, you can set the you know, the time that it rotates so again, another tip that came from chris that helped me in my, in my success as a watch face designer and i'm actually going to take this moment to thank you again, because it was your you had mentioned, you started in 2016 i think it was at the developer conference in 2017 that samsung invited you out to actually speak at the event was that correct? yes, that's right so tell me a little bit about that that experience, because it was after that conference, they posted the video online and that's how i first learned about designing for samsung it was finding this video of chris shomo from infinity watch faces speaking at the conference, that then got me excited so tell me a little about that chris shomo 19 20 uh, that moment, the whole experience was awesome at first late, like when you get an email saying, hey, would you like to come to the samsung developers conference? i'm like, what, at first, i'm just kind of like, samsung sees me this is cool you know how to play i'm getting so excited the experience was great meeting the team was wonderful and just, you know, the team itself were, you know, the designers of the software, the galaxy watch designer, and all that they were so embracing of everybody that came it was such a wonderful experience and then also talking with them and understanding, you know, their process and what goes into creating the software that was amazing too but i guess one of the, the most awesome and rewarding parts of this is all the designers led you, to me that have come to me, it's just like, just been like, thank you for giving that presentation because you guys showed me that, you know, anybody can do this and, and, you know, and then if you have some fun and, you know, wonderful designs that people like then then you can really succeed at it as well and i just i love that yeah, that i could influence someone to start a watch face design career there's another one in particular, that is with usa design he started a little bit later he was doing some games for the watch and he was there at the presentation as well and now he's like one of the top sellers it's amazing he jumped into it he founded as a design formula that works really great with the active two, especially when that came out without the bezel at the time, and is doing phenomenal and i just absolutely love to see that and the fact that i might have played a part in pushing him in that direction is just, it's rewarding it's humbling it's, it's cool tony morelan 21 28 yeah, no, that's, that's great it was you know, when i watched that video of your presentation, and you had mentioned, the first thing was that you can create these watch faces without coding you know, i've done a little bit of coding, but my experience is a lot like yours i mean, i had my own freelance design company i did a lot of website designing but when i learned that you could create these watch faces, really without doing any coding so it's just such an extension of photoshop or illustrator in using like after effects with the timeline you can have so much fun doing it you had mentioned earlier little secret again, just like the watch hands rotating how you could actually have buttons that you could tap and reveal things by using a transparent png that didn't have any pixels in it, you use that as sort of like a cover button well, when i learned about that, i then dove into this whole idea of being able to tap certain areas of the watch and have it reveal new things like, you know, if you wanted to show your step counter, you could tap an icon and it would then show the numbers so you could customize the look of the watch face, cleaning it up by not having all the graphics show, but tapping to reveal whatever sort of data you wanted to see your heart rate beats per minute, i mean, all sorts of different elements and it was from you the that i learned about that i then have totally expanded on that creating videos on tap reveal, that are shown on youtube and doing a whole thing around that and i've seen that a lot of people really enjoy, you know, learning about that and that again, came from you in that presentation so thank you a big thank you from the crowd of designers that really appreciate what you've what you've inspired chris shomo 23 09 thanks yeah, i mean, it's fun and that all kind of spawned from figuring out a solution to putting all this information on a watch face, but not making it look too busy and so kind of hiding it and revealing it there, it kind of making use with the tools that are given to you, and how can you make it work to simulate something when you when you don't have all the code underneath it so tony morelan 23 35 that's great so we've talked a lot about watch faces i know you also are doing theme designing so what was that progression? you first were designing for watches and then learn that you could actually do something very similar with theme studio and creating themes for our phone devices chris shomo 23 52 yeah, no, the whole idea is matching your watch face to your theme and having total continuity between the two and for example, the shock theme that one's actually a free one just called shock, you can look it up that's the most downloaded theme that i have and it has a matching much face called shock as well so you just be shocking everybody with the shock but, but yeah, in those i also like to i like to make fun and exciting something that you wouldn't expect from dancing frogs to lightning bolts to oh gosh, and i got so many more that are just about to come out i'm not going to ruin the surprise, but y'all are gonna love them tony morelan 24 34 wonderful i'm looking at your website and the one that jumps out to me is martian bash i know it's a great dancing alien you know, how is that is there been a lot of success behind some of these quirky dancing cuz i've seen like santas dancing and you've got a lot of fun ones chris shomo 24 48 well, yeah, because i want to reward people for taking some steps a lot of these characters that are on there, they change what they're doing based upon step gold percentage so if you want the aliens dance you're going to have to meet your step goal so in the morning, he might, you know, he's standing there, he's waving at you and then as you proceed during the day, he's running one direction and towards you that another direction and then finally, yeah, he's dancing whoo, you just read your step goal one of the points of these watches is for health and to encourage people to, you know, get out of the chair and you know, move around, and so why not make something that's fun and exciting and encourages that at the same time? that's great so even the one called bolt that has lightning bolts that go across it starts as like a tiny little bolt and as you proceed through the day with your step, go, more electricity comes out and i'm getting ready to release another one with a fun little loving alien that does a lot of other stuff to your step goal as well so that should be fun tony morelan 25 45 super excited about that tell me watch face designing and theme designing is this your full-time gig or do you actually still go back and do some of your website designing or anything beyond design? chris shomo 25 55 oh, this is actually full part time gig chris shomo 26 00 between that and website design and i'm also the cto and creative director of the picker joe's brand you probably heard of antique pickers, vintage pickers, they go around and find really cool stuff and bring it to people yes so yeah, there's a store in savannah, georgia called picker joe's antique mall and it's 10,000 square feet 25,000 items that change daily, about 65 antique pickers that go out and find all this stuff we like to say that it's an experience like no other because it really is we have people that come in from different parts of the world, from across the country, and they go, wow, this is the best antique mall experience that i've ever had and we've also been on oh gosh, i don't know how many interviews so far with the same production company that does american pickers and so they are still considering us possibly for that show oh, wow but, but i designed the branding and do all the advertising and we do crazy videos usually filmed with the latest samsung phone as well and if you go to our instagram if you look at our youtube and stuff, you'll see some of the, the wild and insane advertisements that we do all the time and that's one of the things that really sets it apart from other stores i mean, if you ever heard of an antique store that you know for halloween has monsters invading us and appearing everywhere and like all sorts of things, no, probably not but i encourage everybody to check it out and if you're in savannah, you've got to experience it you really did tony morelan 27 31 definitely in i can see in your designs you definitely have a lot of fun humor happening i'm looking at the watch face for joe, joe's, your character of the dog that seems like his tongue is actually bigger, bigger and then his head and wagging more than his tail yep, chris shomo 27 53 yep and i actually have a dog named joe and that's actually what picker joe's is named after do oh, that's great figure so he's a jack russell and he actually looks very similar to joe and he likes all the time he's always happy and always mischievous as well, too so, again, he'll react to your step go, he'll, he'll do some fun stuff at 50% as well so definitely check that out tony morelan 28 18 so, are you doing all this design work yourself? or do you have a team of designers that work with you in producing watch faces and themes? chris shomo 28 25 most of this stuff is just me but i do have a another a friend and fellow colleague that graduated with me, jonathan maillard he's over in denver right now so i do pull him in on tons of different projects we're working on some right now some interesting apps and hopefully in the very near future, some game designs as well oh, that's great that's great yeah, games are a big push for samsung so super excited to hear that you're going to bring your brand over to that side and let's produce some amazing games it's going to be fine do you work out of your house? do you actually have an office space? okay, i have multiple locations that i can work out of i definitely have the house set up and with the cool gaming computer and all that kind of stuff and then we have the office which is actually right above a florist it's really cool you can walk up the stairs and you smell roses love it always say i always get to stop and smell the roses every day and, and then also working out of picker joe's as well in the side office there tony morelan 29 26 so we talk a lot about savannah is that where you were born, or were you born and raised somewhere else? chris shomo 29 33 born and raised in the mountains of virginia and pulaski, virginia? oh, wow yeah so a little town called pulaski it's in the middle of the blue ridge mountains and it's your cool i guess mainstreet hometown recently it's been hit kind of a little hard from the economy my master's thesis in school for architecture was actually called the polanski institute of art design, which was taking the million square feet of the pulaski furniture plant and change it into a design school, which would in turn, hopefully help the economy and encourage businesses to open up to cater to students and yeah, that's pretty much what my master's thesis was first seen on my hometown but then, of course, i moved to savannah in 2000 and i've been there ever since tony morelan 30 29 so let's talk a little bit about marketing i mean, you are definitely one of the most successful designers for samsung tell me some of your tips and tricks when it comes to actually marketing your watch faces in your themes are you using social media? are you doing any additional advertising? what's your what's your approach to marketing? chris shomo 30 49 okay, so first off, i started out with the website, and just really making sure that it crawled on google so i'm always getting some sort of traffic and so either way website at any given moment can get like 200 to 500 hits a day, which, you know, that really helps just get the brand out there tony morelan 31 08 and share the url chris shomo 31 10 oh, it's www infinitywatchfaces com, and also social media, instagram and facebook we used to use google plus a lot it was a big designer community, but of course that's gone but that has shifted over to the facebook groups now and like the facebook group, that ash with iot gadgets, runs, it's one of the largest facebook groups out there and they have great moderation some good people are definitely running it and it's a great place to really show off your designs and spread the word to everybody and it has just a great following so i always recommend you know, get on social media and you just scream out your brand's everybody i actually tony morelan 31 55 interviewed ash iot gadgets on the podcast nice if you haven't listened to that yet, go back a few episodes it was a great, great time he's an excellent interview, great person doing amazing things and yeah, that facebook group is huge it's crazy chris shomo 32 11 yeah, it's crazy it's got to take a lot of time to moderate i'm sure it does but um, oh, and also on youtube we got our favorite watch face reviewer andrew tony morelan 32 22 jibber jab reviews yes and again, that came out of your presentation when you spoke at the conference you'd mentioned jibber jabber, and first thing i did when i became a watch-based designer was track jibber jabber reviews down on youtube and get him to review some of my watch faces i have just done a live chat with andrew, that we published last week great interview, he talks a lot about strategies, not only using youtube, but even beyond youtube for marketing your app so and i know you've got a great relationship with andrew, can i say this? can i share this? you're helping him with a new website that he's launching is that correct? chris shomo 32 59 yeah as the website is in the very beginning stages, it's going to grow over time doing some interesting work on pulling his youtube channel and all over the place and yeah, it's going to be something you're going to want to visit very often cause he's going to have some cool giveaways and a bunch of other stuff so, yeah, andrew is great to work with and it's interesting, because, you know, in the very beginning, he's tracking down watch face designers to do a review, and now everybody's tracking him down, of course, which is wonderful but, um, but yeah, he's done a phenomenal job and he's just, he's very vital to the community i totally agree i mean, andrew is a great guy and a lot of watch face designers owe their success to, to andrew so your watch faces and themes have a lot of animation so i want to ask about instagram a lot of times people just post pictures on instagram are you utilizing videos on instagram? oh, probably more video than anything else and a lot of that video is just taking my galaxy phone and just reading according the watch on my wrist, this is the first thing i want to do actually, as soon as i have a design, like even almost done, it's a work in progress and it's fun sometimes for your customers to see works in progress to see the early stage and, and all the work that goes into it as well and you'll find that you'll get a lot of a lot of following on there, which is great and, and a lot of times customers will, will critique it and you'll end up getting a better design in the very end because they kind of helped with the design process ah, that's awesome i think the first thing i do, of course, is i post on instagram and then the next thing i do is i head on over to that large facebook group and i started announcing there and, you know, i'll do some, you know, some works in progress, like post and that sort of thing you know, making sure that i replace that post as opposed to adding another one with, you know, the final, you know, work and just, you know, keep on updating that that sort of thing because you know, everybody's notified at the end another picture to a post they like so, yeah, just knowing these little tricks with social media and with instagram, knowing how to use your hashtags, it's all about hashtags on instagram, yeah, then you don't have to, to pay essentially, we're on facebook, you know, you might want to, you know, every once in a while, on paid advertise a little bit, sometimes it works but the main thing is being active with those groups, getting people to recognize your brand and getting repeat customers that also want to share your stuff, too tony morelan 35 30 and glad you mentioned the hashtags, we actually posted on our site, which is developer samsung com if you go to the galaxy store page, we actually posted a long list of valuable hashtags that you can use, whether your marketing your watch faces or your themes or apps or games so it's a great place to start to go take a look at some really good hashtags that could work chris shomo 35 52 nice and i just need to give a huge shout out and thank you to everybody with the samsung developers program because like i've also seen that grow over time and the resources available are just amazing and it's so helpful and you guys have yeah, even great every step along the way thank you tony morelan 36 13 yeah, no, you're welcome you're welcome you know, one of the things that we've done to try and help designers like yourself promote their apps is galaxy store badges, which i know that you use so a little bit about your experience with that, and where are you using those galaxy store badges? chris shomo 36 31 well, these badges are great because first they make you look legit they make you look professional, because they know, you know, it's 100% hey, this is available on the galaxy store and also being able to track the clicks and where people are coming from you can you can make a link specifically for a facebook promotion and you know, how many people you know clicked on that to participate in that so how do you know how where to grow unless you know where you stand and that helps you understand this statistics and where people are coming from so it's a valuable resource tony morelan 37 03 what about banner promotions? i love chris shomo 37 06 banner promotions you will see your best downloads during then that when you have one of those and ron is great yes, yeah, he helps guide you along just making sure that the banner looks great definitely everybody needs to take in his comments, everything that he tells you because i mean he, he's saying him for a reason so he will help your sales tony morelan 37 29 my biggest success came from a watch face that i had done that was featured on a banner promotion and it was crazy the amount of downloads and sales that were generated by having that banner promotion so for designers out there, once you've got a collection of strong designs, then you can approach samsung about being featured on a banner there is no cost to the banner, but there are a lot of people requesting it you have to be approved proved to actually have your designs featured on a banner but definitely worthwhile pursuing for sure chris shomo 38 07 and make sure that you have your social presence as well and all your facebook page and instagram page and all that when you submit for the banner because you know it's going to make you a better candidate for one tony morelan 38 18 yes, definitely they actually look at that they want to see previous downloads how much success you've already had so once you've got some experience, it's definitely worthwhile to at that point to reach out and then apply for a band promotion going back to your video, so you do have a lot of animation in your watch faces and your themes and i know you leverage video so talk a bit about youtube are you taking like all of these designs each time and posting them on youtube creating videos to expand your reach? chris shomo 38 44 most of them the main reason to do the video for me on youtube is to really have something dynamic to show on the galaxy store when someone sees that video after they land on your listing it really can be the difference as to whether they're going to buy it or not, and since most of mine offer animations to them, it makes sense to have a video to, to show it off one thing that i, i wish that the galaxy store had was an animated preview, like on like where the icon is, that was really cool because then everybody would be gravitating towards mine and other animated faces instantly but, but yeah, the youtube video is what really makes a difference and there are some watch faces that need to actually go back and make some videos for sometimes you finish the face and then of course, you're like, oh, now i have this whole production i got to make tony morelan 39 35 sure i totally agree with that and let me explain a little bit further about what you were talking about creating the video so that people can see it when they're viewing your galaxy store page so on the galaxy store page for a watch app, you have what are called screenshots and these screenshots show still images of your graphics that you use your marketing graphics however, there's also a way for you to include a little link to a video on youtube so you grab your youtube url, place it into your, your application for the, for this app and the very first screenshot will actually show your youtube video instead of the still image so it's a great way for users like you had mentioned, that want to see the motion, they can actually click on that screenshot, and it will launch the youtube video so it's a great way to market, you know, motion in your graphics so you had mentioned that your top theme is a free download so let's talk a little bit about the approach of offering apps for free because i know a lot of designers utilize the ability to you know, give away their apps and some designers are a little tight with that and they hold on to them and they don't do it where do you stand? i mean, are you using this as a marketing tool? do you just want to like get your brand out there? chris shomo 40 43 well, it started as a marketing tool, because you know, there's also a free section on the store, and if you don't exist on it, then well, it's just another avenue that people are not going to find you so you definitely need to make a free one and a good free one too just don't pick your worst design and be like, oh, i'm just going to make it free no, no, not at all it's not going to do any good so, for example, actually i did a watch face for jibber jabber reviews for andrew and that turned into my top downloading free watch face and that one at one time oh my goodness i think it was downloading like one to 3000 times a day tony morelan 41 22 wow so this is a branded jibber jabber reviews watch face yes so you so i actually remember when he posted his review of that i didn't realize that you were the designer behind that that's awesome yeah, chris shomo 41 35 but my name snuck on there like a little bit, but i wanted that to be mainly about him sure but yeah, not that one still gets downloaded like hundreds of times a day and stuff that very solid one and it gets reviews every single day to love it so having some free faces you can get discovered from people that you would have never discovered you before as well if you can get your watch face up to, you know, a certain section of the free section, which means it has to be good, essentially so, having done this now for several years, i'm sure you could face some challenges will first has been just the challenges of, you know, just growing with the software and understanding what you can do and taking advantage of updates to the software, like when the gyroscope became available and you could use that, oh my gosh, i was so happy when we could do that because that just adds a whole new level of dynamics to the watch faces and so it's really just, you know, learning your tools, but then also encountering that the watch face market has gotten a little bit congested with you know, there's a lot of people, you know, so you definitely have a lot more competition than when i first started out and, you know, i was just thinking the other day, i was like, wow, if i knew what i knew now, right in the very beginning, would i've been designing more sophisticated watch faces and have like a whole monopoly in the market or something like that, you know, you always think back like, oh my gosh, but no, no, i grew at a great rate with the software with the other designers you'll find that a lot of the other designers have become, you know, friends we all talk with each other yeah, we help out each other but yeah, it's a great community it really is tony morelan 43 22 talking about some of your favorite designers and who are the designers that you follow that you're inspired by? chris shomo 43 27 oh gosh, like jeweler broda like oh my gosh bergen of course like, those are great such clean watch faces i love those chris shomo 43 41 md matteo dini oh my gosh, like a little jealous there we'll have to say, but, but yeah, he's, um, the those are just a few of some of the amazing designers out there and a lot of great designers and, and again, the main thing is you know, everybody communicating and kind of working with each other? you feel like you are part of the community regularly tony morelan 44 07 yeah, that's what i've noticed i'm not too long ago actually did a podcast interview with tomas yes check from vienna studios yes yes great person yeah and he's done some amazing designs yeah, he's taken a different approach to watch face descending, where he designs extremely high end, very expensive watch faces that are in the hundreds of dollars and he is one of our top whitespace designers i mean, he has found a way to you know, make amazing revenue off of these high-end watch faces so yeah, i love the community it's been a lot of fun for me to not only be inspired by them when i was a watch face designer, but now being fortunate to be in a position working at samsung, i now get to have these conversations and then help out where i can with some of these you know, the rock stars of the watch facing design community chris shomo 45 04 that's awesome and i promise you that we all appreciate you too thank you so much tony morelan 45 09 thank you tony morelan 45 11 you've used galaxy watch studio for some time now, i'm going to ask you, what sort of features would you like to see added to it? so you'd mentioned about adding animations, maybe as a preview in the galaxy store but what other features would you like to see added to the galaxy watch studio, chris shomo 45 26 probably some little nitpicky things like being able to start and stop an animation with a click of a button that would be great to be able to have an animation react while your mobile for example, if i could have a guy that starts to run while i'm running, that would be cool to sure that would even take that joe watch face to another level, which would be awesome and then maybe in the future, and i think that someone was talking to me about this, but having the ability to do 3d and be able to put like a 3d mesh in there and have real shadows and that sort of thing who knows that that's really thinking into the future, that sort of thing sure and then if we look over to the theme side of things to my main one that i want right now is to have gyroscope action to have parallax effects i think that would add another dynamic to the theme designs tony morelan 46 25 yeah, i love that suggestion chris shomo 46 27 yeah so just, you know, just having like, you know, three to five layers that you could work with that could react with the gyroscope to mess with for like the regular background image people are looking at their phones, i don't even know how many times a day so let's make it like the best, most awesome dynamic experience ever and that would just be great tony morelan 46 48 that's what i mean wishes for that you know, and you were the first designer that i saw that truly leverage the gyroscope on the watch, where i can't remember the name of the watch face you had but as you rotated your wrist because of the gyro functionality these like metallic, big doors just like opened up to then show you know, the like data, you know whether it's the digital clock or heart rate, but it was so cool i could rotate my wrist and have these metal doors on my watch, paste, you know, collapse or open so that's how i first learned about the gyro is from your from your watch face design chris shomo 47 26 yeah, that as soon as they came out with the gyro is just like, oh, how can i use this to do like, tons of different things and i was thinking like a cuckoo clock, you know, when it opens up and that sort of thing so that kind of started at all and trying to think what the first one that i did using that is think it might have been digit glow spark tony morelan 47 45 that sounds right yeah so do you have any tips for designers when publishing on the galaxy store? i mean, we've mentioned a lot about marketing, but when it actually comes to, you know, creating the graphics behind their apps, what sort of tips could you give people and publishing on the galaxy store? chris shomo 48 05 definitely bone up on your photoshop skills, you got to design those thumbnails, don't just throw, you know, watch on a white background with the watch face on it because you really have to grab someone's attention talking from my website design experience, on average, you have about three seconds before someone clicks the back button or continues to read on the website it's kind of the same thing with watch face listing you know that you can have written information, everything, people aren't going to read it they're their visual, they want to look at the thumbnails and it starts with the icon as well make sure that icons looking good tony morelan 48 40 that's great are you familiar with the tool that i created called the asset creator? chris shomo 48 45 yes and i've actually been through it and i've used some of it to create some of my thumbnails and, you know, pulled some stuff out of it and threw some stuff in and that sort of thing so tony morelan 48 54 that's awesome yeah so super excited you know, we just announced galaxy watch three yes and so i spent a bit of time recently updating the asset creator to include all of the new watches for the galaxy watch three i just checked, you can actually go download the new updated version of the asset crater that includes all that that was just published recently so, in addition to that, i also have created what we call lifestyle photo packs, using the same tools within photoshop that allow you to use smart objects to quickly copy paste your design into a watch and have the perspective change and have the blurred change so that it truly just simply photoshopped right onto the watch i am madly working on new photos that show the galaxy watch three i will be publishing those very, very soon so super excited those have been a big success, a lot of help for people because it's not just showing your watch face on the watch just on a simple straight, you know, top down picture we're actually taking the watch and putting it into a scene so whether it is, you know, sitting on water drops, or it's on a slab of granite, or you know, some high-tech texture, these are great pictures to help using your screenshots when you're publishing your app so, look for those new galaxy watch three lifestyle photo packs coming out very, very cool chris shomo 50 22 i'm excited and one thing that's cool about that is it allows the customer to relate to the watch and wearing that watch face more by having photos like that so that that's great you can get your customer to relate to your product, you're golden, an architecture professor actually told me one time that a building or a product, any type of product, it is 10% your ideas and 90% the way you present them so if you can't present it right then your product is not going to mean anything tony morelan 50 55 so what is in the future for infinity watch face design tell me what can we get excited about? what's happening? chris shomo 51 02 oh gosh, what is in the future? we got so many things in the future, we're going to have some games come out, you know, break into the, the other part of the app world still continues with wearables of course, we're going to expand our video production as well working on that and infinity watch faces is going to be getting really involved with local businesses really soon, and helping promote their businesses to other local people and visitors ever since this whole pandemic, things going on local businesses have been hit so hard, we've lost a few in our neighborhood i just don't want to lose any more so i'll be going out and you know, just really doing what i can to tony morelan 51 49 help that's wonderful yeah, these are definitely challenging times you know, it's been a while now that we've all kind of been in this sort of lockdown and we've realized the effects that this has really had on our economy, it's also been an opportunity for us to try and find new ways to, you know, to still do the work that we do and in the reach that we do so it's nice to hear that you're, you know, finding ways to sort of help out in all of that aspect so, going back to the fun designs that you create, i need to ask you right now, which if you have to pick one, and then you've got 390 plus, i want you to pick one design, what is your current favorite? chris shomo 52 36 i know this is going to sound a little goofy, maybe a little girly the butterfly named fred love it's not very i think because the way the flowers interact with your wrist and then that that butterfly just landing perfectly right there on it every single time it makes me happy and the dude's name is fred come like fred butterfly tony morelan 52 59 how did you come up? fred for the butterfly, chris shomo 53 02 i don't know i was just kind of looking at an insect one day and i named an insect fred and then i was like, ah, this butterfly should be named fred now, i mean, i could have called it something like beautiful butterfly or blue butterfly or you know, just some sort of whatever name but let's give him an actual name and let's make a character out of this yeah wow, that is a great story i'm going to close this podcast though by asking what does chris sharma do for fun when you're not designing these wild themes and wild watch faces? oh, i live in the city of fun i mean, just going around and you know, going to experience the different restaurants and just the atmosphere in the summertime, i guess staying indoors more because it's so hot and humid down there someone asked me one time what's it like living in the south during all this heat because like just the other day that heat index was like 105 degrees that's of course, when you combine the humidity and the actual temperature, that's what it feels like and i told him when i was like, alright, take the hottest shower that you can now get out of the shower, do not dry off and put your clothes on that's what it feels like oh, so it's a sauna out there tony morelan 54 22 that's crazy you know, and i will say i have to share we've had to reschedule this interview numerous times, because there was a hurricane going through savannah and you were losing your internet connection so yeah, living in the south, i think definitely has a lot of excitement chris shomo 54 37 well, the hurricane is actually one of the normal things for 2020 chris shomo 54 43 we were very fortunate that the hurricane mainly missed us we got some wind from the outer bands and locally, my internet was like, it was all over the place we didn't have it and we had a flood yeah, it's just something that we got to deal with but i'm glad we were fine hazleton connect and get this interview done tony morelan 55 03 yeah, this is great this has been a lot of fun so chris, thank you very much for joining the podcast much access to you at infinity watch faces and looking forward to all the great new designs i know they're going to be coming down the road for us so thanks again chris shomo 55 15 thank you, tony and thank you, samsung, you guys are awesome outro 55 18 looking to start creating for samsung, download the latest tools to code your next app, or get software for designing apps without coding at all sell your apps to the world on the samsung galaxy store check out developer samsung com today and start your journey with samsung the pow! podcast is brought to you by the samsung developer program and produced by tony morelan
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