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Learn Developers Podcast
docsamsung developers podcast, season 2 in season 2, tony has guests lined up from many different parts of the samsung developer ecosystem join him as he shares stories with notable designers, developers, educators, and industry influencers episodes date topic guest s download/listen 02 nov 2021 samsung developer conference recap aleksander tyszka · hyun kim · dan appelquist · aaron swift · roger kibbe · sooyeon kim · eric cloninger listen 07 oct 2021 samsung developer conference eric cloninger · samsung electronicschris shomo · infinity watchfaces listen 07 jun 2021 samsung internet · webxr samsung internet developer advocacy team · samsung internet listen 26 apr 2021 samsung knox bala thinagarajan · samsung b2b listen 12 apr 2021 galaxy themes olga gabay · zeru studio listen 29 mar 2021 design amy lee · the art institutes listen 08 mar 2021 galaxy watch · galaxy themes tan nguyen · butterfly-effected gmbh listen 22 feb 2021 galaxy watch drazen stojcic · urarity listen 15 feb 2021 samsung developers pow! season 2 · samsung developers
Learn Developers Podcast
docseason 2, episode 7 previous episode | episode index | next episode this is a transcript of one episode of the samsung developers podcast, hosted by and produced by tony morelan a listing of all podcast transcripts can be found here host tony morelan senior developer evangelist, samsung developers instagram - twitter - linkedin guests eric cloninger, lead, developer relations team, samsung electronics chris shomo, infinity watchfaces listen download this episode topics covered sdc21, virtual conference history of the samsung developer conference conference audience keynote speakers conference announcements technical sessions expo floor galaxy store gallery code lab virtual reality after-hours party chris shomo, infinity watchfaces watch face studio 2020 best of galaxy store awards 2021 best of galaxy store awards bixby developers one ui beta samsung podcast platform smartthings helpful links sdc21, virtual conference - developer samsung com/sdc sdc18 highlights - youtube video sdc19 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linkedin - linkedin com/company/samsungdevelopers eric cloninger linkedin - linkedin com/in/ericcloninger/ chris shomo linkedin - linkedin com/in/christopher-shomo tony morelan linkedin - linkedin com/in/tony-morelan transcript note transcripts are provided by an automated service and reviewed by the samsung developers web team inaccuracies from the transcription process do occur, so please refer to the audio if you are in doubt about the transcript tony morelan 00 01 hey, i'm tony morelan and this is pow! the samsung developers podcast where we chat with innovators using samsung technologies, award winning app developers and designers, as well as insiders working on the latest samsung tools welcome to season two, episode seven today's show is a special episode of the pow! podcast last year, we were not able to have our annual samsung developer conference because of the pandemic but this year, we're back with sdc21, a virtual conference this coming october, i sat down with eric cloninger, who leads developer relations at samsung not only do we talk about some of the highlights from our past developer conferences, but what you can look forward to at this year's sdc21 enjoy hey, eric, welcome to the podcast eric cloninger 00 51 hey, tony glad to be here tony morelan 00 53 so i couldn't be more excited about this special episode where we get to chat about not only the past samsung developer conferences, but our upcoming sdc21 eric cloninger 01 03 yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun it is different this year for certain tony morelan 01 06 let me first start off by asking what exactly is the samsung developer conference, eric cloninger 01 11 samsung creates a lot of different platforms and sdks for developers to create for and integrate with so sdc is one of the ways we promote our platforms, and educate developers on their capabilities like many companies, we realized that developers add a lot of value to our products with their own creations so sdc is our opportunity to share knowledge and hopefully build a connection to the people that are making our products better tony morelan 01 36 yeah, and what's unique with sdc 21 is this year, it's actually going to be a virtual conference now we know that it's because the current pandemic we're in, but it's, i think, an opportunity for samsung really to reach to a much bigger global audience that will be able to come in and attend our conference eric cloninger 01 55 certainly, you know, in the years past, it's been a live event and there would be quite a few people there -- several thousand now with it being virtual, we have a much bigger audience and people can actually see the technical sessions as well as the keynote online even though it's not in person, it is still something that where we can share knowledge, and people can give us feedback on what they like and don't tony morelan 02 21 let's go back and talk a little bit about the history of sdc i think it started back in 2013 is that correct? that's correct eric cloninger 02 29 and i was there in 2014, talking about the gear watch tony morelan 02 34 development wow, that must have been pretty close to when we first launched the watch eric cloninger 02 39 i think it was the first gear s was the product that that i was working on and we were talking about development tools and how to write apps for those watches tony morelan 02 49 since then, we've done seven sdcs that, you know, there was a year i think around 2015 that we skipped and of course last year, we did have to hold off on doing an actual conference past locations, primarily san francisco in the bay area eric cloninger 03 06 it's been at moscone every year until 2019, when it moved to san jose so it's always been in the bay area somewhere that people who attend tony morelan 03 15 tell me about, you know, what is what is the audience eric cloninger 03 19 the audience is primarily developers and the content is really focused on that group a lot of samsung employees attend to give the technical talks and a lot to people come from all over the world to work in the booths and on the show floor in one sense sdc is like a family reunion, we get a chance to meet the people that we've emailed with and been on web conferences for a long time that's a chance to come together but it's also the fruition of a year of hard work, you'll whether it's virtual or in person, we can use the opportunity to celebrate and to share what we've worked on with third party developer community tony morelan 04 05 yeah, i know, my first sdc was 2018 that was in san francisco i hit started at samsung just a few months earlier than that so it was a great opportunity, really, for me to meet, not just some of these employees that had only been, you know, emailing with but a lot of the partners that we had a great report with sdc 19 eric cloninger 04 29 i think there was over 5000 close to 6000 people that it's been five to 6000 every year since that i've been here yeah, so that's a fairly good-sized conference tony morelan 04 37 so let's talk about some of the past keynotes and some of the big announcements that we've made going back to 2017 i think we had stan lee, is that correct? eric cloninger 04 47 yeah, stan lee from marvel was one of the main speakers that was pretty interesting in 2018, we had a lot of people watching because that's the day that they announced the galaxy fold wow so the first time anybody saw it was on stage at sdc and there were probably a half a million people watching live on either facebook live or youtube tony morelan 05 13 i remember my takeaway from sdc18 was tim sweeney for fortnite epic games? eric cloninger 05 18 absolutely on stage with one of our vps who was holding your tiny sword and shield you know, it just it added to the silliness, but also the fun was pretty, pretty fun tony morelan 05 33 oh, definitely now sdc 19 we had another very interesting person up on the stage talk a little bit about vitalik eric cloninger 05 41 yeah, vitalik buterin is the co-founder of ethereum and that year, we also had justin sun from tron the blockchain community is very interesting and it's definitely a new aspect for samsung is we had the blockchain wallet sdk that was coming out that year and so we wanted to have people that could talk about their interactions with it so vitalik and justin, were on stage in the spotlight session on day two tony morelan 06 09 yeah, that was pretty exciting actually, to see him up on stage they're in live in person so a big part of our conference are the technical sessions, it's a chance for the community really to learn about new and upcoming technologies talk a bit about some of those sessions that we've had in the past eric cloninger 06 27 so pretty much any of samsung's technical features sdks and services have sessions at sdc so if you're interested in ai and voice activated services, you can go to multiple bixby sessions, if you're into the internet of things and how to integrate into samsung smartthings ecosystem, there will be information there you know, as i mentioned previously, there's blockchain, there's the knox partnership for if you want to do secure computing, one ui if you're a designer, and all the new foldable phones and devices out there, there's a lot of content around how to handle app continuity and the flex mode, as well as the unique things about foldable design that you can learn about, as well as things like samsung health and how to design for themes there's a wide range of technical sessions for pretty much anybody at any experience level tony morelan 07 24 yeah, yeah, in my area of involvement with the developer conference has been around that design side i mean, as you know, my background is in design, you know, when we are giving the sessions on theme, designing watchface designing that that's really where i get my involvement with so a lot of fun for me to be at the conference walking around the expo floor has been one of the most exciting things for me to be there because truthfully at these different conferences, you just don't know what you're going to see and i remember walking in the room if it was sdc 18 or 19 but seeing this awesome car on the expo floor, the harmon car eric cloninger 08 00 yeah, the great thing about the expo floor is where you, you get to do a lot of the kind of non-technical learning it's a great place in a more relaxed atmosphere to meet and talk to people about what's going on so the harmon car harman is a subsidiary of samsung, and they create high end audio equipment so i'm sure you're familiar with brands like harman, kardon, or jbl, or infiniti, all very high-end brands harman also creates infotainment systems and telematics solutions for automakers and so what they would do for several years is they would bring a car onto the show floor and deck it out with a lot of the latest software and hardware, as well as the audio systems for the attendees to sit in the car and try it out unfortunately, they wouldn't let us drive it around the show floor obviously tony morelan 08 47 i will say i actually did ride the elevator with the person who drove the car from southern california up to northern california for the show so i did get to ask a little bit about you know what it is like to get behind the wheel of that car and she said it was an absolute blast to drive it up five eric cloninger 09 04 i'm sure they had to go the speed limit though tony morelan 09 06 definitely i know that smart things back in 14, one of our first conferences they actually set up like what they call the connected home eric cloninger 09 14 yeah, it was actually a full size when not full sizes about a 900 square foot, you know, a 30 by 30 area where they had different rooms and inside each of those rooms, they would have different ways that you could integrate different iot solutions into the smart home tony morelan 09 32 now just to be clear, a 900 square foot home in san francisco actually is full size so in 2018, we did something i was actually pretty excited about we created what we called a gallery of theme so you know as you know, with the galaxy store, designers can publish their phone themes, but what we did is we took those designs and actually built like a museum gallery big, full size images of the different themes nicely framed, and people would walk around this gallery and not only see this beautiful, much larger than life theme design but this was a gallery where at the end of the conference, we actually raffled off the different pieces, eric cloninger 10 15 it really shows how we have a lot of incredibly creative people who are creating work for the galaxy store, and samsung galaxy devices all of those things that were shown in that that gallery are available for anyone to download and purchase on the galaxy store tony morelan 10 31 yeah, i know that that gallery really, really was a success in a lot of people really enjoyed seeing that worked in person another area of the floor that i saw had a lot of activity was code lab, talking about what exactly is code lab at the at the conference eric cloninger 10 46 code lab is an interactive learning experience, you don't have to actually be present at sdc to be able to use it samsung employees create guided learning modules, with examples and downloadable code snippets that you can use to learn anything from android development, watch face design, or theme by the time you've gone through everything tony morelan 11 13 so if people want to learn more about code lab outside of the conference, where can they find that information, eric cloninger 11 18 you can find the code lab on the samsung developer portal at developer samsung com/codelab tony morelan 11 26 so i think one of the most exciting things that i saw happen on the expo floor was the vr team, they set up this like photography studio that talk about that eric cloninger 11 36 so in 2018, that team created what was called a volumetric camera setup so it had cameras in a lot of different positions in 360 degrees so they would take a very detailed scan of your body, and then they would print it out on a 3d printer and so that was really cool and then the following year, that same team took that that same type of technology, and they integrated it with a live interactive experience called delusion and delusion was a very creepy, interactive experience where you interacted with all of these crazy characters and because of the time of the year, it was october 29, and 30th so it's just the day before halloween, okay, you had all of these various characters that you were interacting with in a 3d experience and the thing that was cool about it was the second night, we had this, you know, after hours segment and those characters in the game that actually came to life, and you actually saw these people walking around that you had interacted with, in the interactive exhibit tony morelan 12 49 yeah, i remember that being a very fun and freaky evening, i was i was working in one of the booths behind the scenes doors were closed and as they were prepping for the opening of the of the doors, the fog machine was rolling, that people started rushing in and then i saw those characters that had been in that interactive space, actually walking amongst the people and there were a few times that in a fun way, those a little not at ease with them with those different folks eric cloninger 13 23 yeah, it was kind of a creepy experience because some of those characters, i mean, they stayed in character, and they got to look right through you and it just it was very creepy experience so the after-hours is a lot of fun at you at sdc as it is, with a lot of events, it's an it's an opportunity to kind of be a lot more relaxed you'll see some people that you saw in the, the technical sessions earlier in the day, and you have a chance to maybe drill down a little deeper while you have, you know, a plate of food and beverage in your hand so it's a good experience overall and you know, to be honest, i'm looking forward to when we can do that again tony morelan 14 02 yeah, yeah, hopefully, hopefully that will be next year so i thought it would be nice if we brought in a designer slash developer who has been very involved with the samson community and who has not only attended and many of the past sdc conferences, but was also invited to speak at one of the past sessions chris shomo, from infinity watchfaces eric cloninger 14 20 hey, chris, welcome to the show chris shomo 14 23 hey, thank you for having me on here tony morelan 14 25 yeah, no, it's great it's great to have you on the podcast so looking back at the samsung developer program, chris has been one of those resources that we've turned to many times and it simply comes down to not only your success, but your willingness to share and, and really help grow the entire ecosystem for samsung watchfaces and galaxy devices chris shomo 14 43 well, one thing that i've learned is all about the community that's one of the reasons i love to share things that i find out because i've also reached out to other designers and ask them, you know, hey, how do you do this? how do you do that? and they're more than willing to share back so it really is a given take type of thing and you know, if you're nice, then you can find some answers that you're looking for out there tony morelan 15 04 there you go definitely and you know, honestly, the more success there is amongst all the designers just the more vibrant the galaxy store is just with, with lots of great content chris shomo 15 13 oh, yeah and just how it developed over time, too, because, like i've seen it, since the very beginning, when there was hardly anything on there and then just watching it explode to all these designs that you can't even imagine what's going to pop on there next it's exactly designed to blow me away all the time tony morelan 15 29 so chris is the person behind infinity watch faces, and truly is one of the first designers who started creating for the platform tell me what year was it that you actually started designing and selling on galaxy store? chris shomo 15 39 oh, goodness 2016 tony morelan 15 41 wow yeah so i actually did an episode on the podcast on chris last year, it was great episode, we talked about how you got your start creating for samsung and, and also that your house in savannah, georgia was featured in an episode of ghost hunters that it is haunted? chris shomo 15 56 yes, it is it's been quite an experience, even though i do believe that the ghost does appreciate me being here, i believe i do not know that but she's been pretty nice tony morelan 16 08 guys nice so if you want to learn much more about chris, go back to that episode and check it out it was it was a great show so in 2017, before i started working with samsung, you were actually invited to come out to san francisco and speak at the conference tell me about that chris shomo 16 22 wow, it was quite an experience and first off, it was my first developers conference, first type of any type of tech conference so i was a little nervous in the very beginning because here i am, i'm going to san francisco, and i'm getting ready to speak in front of a lot of other designers and developers what an experience it was great tony morelan 16 43 i'm sure it was nice to actually meet also the people, you know, not only at samsung, but then you know, some of the fellow developers that are part of this community chris shomo 16 51 yeah, and also met a lot of people that became future designers of for specifically watch faces, which was wonderful they always come back to me and be like, hey, i was there and i'm like, i remember you and you know, and they take off and they do very well yeah tony morelan 17 06 so i actually came across a video on youtube of you speaking at the conference and that's how i actually got my start how i first discovered that, you know, you can create these watch faces and, and start selling them for samsung now, i took it a step further and actually started working for samsung eventually chris shomo 17 23 yep and i think that's amazing i remember you sent me an email one time actually telling me that i had a typo on my website that's right and i was like, whoa, thank you, because it was just, uh, you know, no one wants a stupid typo on their website so i got that fixed and, and then i never knew that, you know, i'd be working with yeah, back and forth, like we are now and stuff so it's great it's amazing how everything is connected tony morelan 17 49 yeah so earlier this year, we announced a partnership with google and warehouse and introduced watch face studio to new tool for designing galaxy watch faces that are sold on the google play store when the tool was first developed, we asked you to be part of that early access team so can you tell me about that experience, how it is working with that tool, and what it's like to now publish on google play? chris shomo 18 10 well, first off, thank you for getting me in there and you recommended me for being part of that team and it was excellent to be part of it, because i was able to kind of push it to its limits for animations i had a really long animation, i was testing with it and i was sending it back and forth with samsung and it helped them iron out and smooth out how the animations were working on the watch and that was great and, you know, of course, there's going to be a little bit of growing pains in the very beginning we're working on that but it's been amazing how the team at samsung has been so responsive and to get the software right for us you can really create some masterpieces so i'm excited about this tony morelan 18 55 yeah, and that's why i thought it was so important to have you part of that team is because really your designs are not like the typical design i mean, you really do push the software to try and get the most out of it you know, they're there's fun, they're quirky, i mean animations are a huge part of your designs so is there anything new and exciting that we can anticipate coming out in the in the near future? chris shomo 19 15 oh, wow i don't really know myself because i kind of jumped around so much with these designs, which is another reason why yeah, i guess it's kind of unexpected and surprising when another one comes out at one time you'll have like dancing tigers in the next second you have dolphins and sea turtle swimming i'm working on getting one onto the google play store right now called flip out that has the dolphins and the sea turtles and then tiger time as well and then we got a giant eyeball for halloween that she's showing up so yeah, a bunch of different things tony morelan 19 48 you've got it in there they're super crazy they're very artistic chris shomo 19 51 thank you yeah, and it also one of the things that i like to concentrate on is trying to bring joy to people with the watch face is where they look at it and you know, just for a moment of time, they can actually, you know, take a break from reality, they get absorbed into the watch smile for a minute if that happens, and i know it's exceeded tony morelan 20 13 it also what i love is how you build in this sort of like goals where the watch will change, like, lets you step into an example, as you're reaching your different step goals throughout the day, your watch face then is also changing throughout the day chris shomo 20 27 and that started out of course, with the ties and watches and it worked with every one step goal percentage that they set with the watch and that was another thing that i'm glad i was in the beta because i was really expressing how much we needed a step goal percentage and to work with it, and they added it in after i requested it and it was really quick and of course there are some differences where we have to set the watch pace to its unique step goal as opposed to the user set step go but that's because of that they're trying to make it so it's compatible with all the different watches and where it was but that's cool, it opens up a new line of challenge faces where you can reach 1000 steps for this to happen 2000 steps for this to happen and i think it's really going to open the door for a lot of unique and creative designs tony morelan 21 17 you know, you brought up a great point that i always stress and that is how approachable samsung is to our developer community samsung really does listen to our developers and we actually want to have that one on one communications you know, through our different channels, it is really easy to reach out to us and we'll give you that that personal attention that we know our developers need when they're creating for samsung chris shomo 21 39 and i've really watched the developers program grow over time too because back in 2016 you know it was kind of a shot in the dark but everybody was like new to it samsung was new to this the watch faces and working with this well ready to be flooded of designers that are getting ready to come in and then every one of samsung embraced us we feel like we're part of a family tony morelan 22 02 thanks thanks, chris i got to thank you for jumping in and joining us on the podcast when sdc is back in person i hope to see you there, if not sooner, i will definitely be there chris shomo 22 10 count me in tony morelan 22 12 awesome thanks, chris thanks eric cloninger 22 15 it was great to hear from chris he's a part of the community of designers and developers that really make the galaxy store special tony morelan 22 22 yeah, he's been there from pretty much day one so it was great to catch up with chris and like i said, i can't wait to actually see him in person so it past sdcs, we've done what's called the best of galaxy store awards, i think, sec 18 was the first time that we did the show at the conference sec 19 that's when i actually hosted it down in san jose, it was great we have a lot of the winners actually, at the conference, we're able to recognize them for the great apps that they've created for galaxy store however, last year in 2020, because we did not have a conference, we did a virtual award show this was presented on youtube as a life premiere and it really actually was a lot of fun because we were able to reach out to a quite a big audience eric cloninger 23 09 one of the things i thought was cool about that once we all said in the chat room, it was in the early evening us time, but there were people logging in from russia and the czech republic and slovenia all of these developers and designers who had created things in one go is the middle of their night, but they were on there congratulating each other tony morelan 23 29 i think it really shows how the award show is really a global award show i mean we've got winners from all around the world winners from large companies down to indie designers and developers and it really is a huge, huge community eric cloninger 23 45 i think it shows how the galaxy store enables a lot of smaller operations, smaller individuals who may get lost in a larger organization that they can actually create something and monetize it and enjoy the success that they can have from their own work tony morelan 24 03 yeah, no that's very true that being said, though, there have been some pretty big names that we've recognized with awards in the past we've given awards to tik tok, epic games fortnite, microsoft with their franchise forza, top golf, that was another one and then there's a great company butterfly affected that his license big brands like spongebob, hello kitty, and star trek, it was great to see them recognized for their work eric cloninger 24 31 and also last year, for the first time, bixby developers had the opportunity to have their capsules judged and in 2020 the winner was spotify tony morelan 24 43 yeah, it was a lot of fun i actually worked on many of the trailers that were shown in the award show and spotify was one of the ones that i really, really enjoyed doing, not only the voiceover for but integrating the music and all the editing that was that was a lot of fun to work on that project and we look forward to that in 2021 eric cloninger 24 59 and so when is the award show this year tony morelan 25 05 so the award show will be part of sdc so that is on october 26 later on in the evening, though, we're going to be doing a premiere on youtube at 6pm eastern, and we will be participating in a live chat so we would love for, you know, not only the winners will be on participating in this live chat, but we would love just to have the community on there so we can all get together as a chance to, you know, congratulate the winners, and really talk about all of the great apps that were recognized during the award show eric cloninger 25 35 yeah, the one thing about this, that i think we did have a lot of fun with it last year, and we hope to have more fun this year in that chat session, the invitation goes out to really everyone who is interested in the galaxy ecosystem and that could be anybody who is a user or a consumer or a developer or a designer you know, we want to we want to celebrate everyone's hard work tony morelan 25 59 definitely, definitely and if you would like to actually go back and see who the previous winners are, and actually learn more about this upcoming award show, you can go over to developer samsung com forward slash awards to learn more about the best of galaxy store award show so let's talk about sdc 21 as you know, it's a virtual show that will be on october 26 where can people find out more information about registering to attend the virtual conference? eric cloninger 26 28 so the conference is free for anyone to attend, and you can learn more at developer samsung com slash sdc tony morelan 26 38 let's talk about some of the sessions what can you share about the sessions at sdc 21? eric cloninger 26 44 well, i don't want to steal any of the thunder from the product teams have been working so hard for the last year but it will tell you that most every technology team that is working on products at samsung will have something to talk about at sdc so if you're interested in the one ui beta, you'll learn a lot more about that at the sessions, the watchface tools, there's a podcasting platform that's brand new that i think you know something about, tony morelan 27 09 yeah, yeah, no, i am helping out the podcast platform team we're excited samsung has their new podcast platform, making it easy for users to listen to podcasts and we're really excited because in october, we're going to be expanding this platform to countries in europe so it's really a big deal you can check out my session and i kind of walk you through how it is that you submit your podcast to samsung so do you have any insight on what is going to be featured in the keynote, eric cloninger 27 38 i do have a little bit of information to share and one of the things that is always kind of fun with the keynote at sdc is that samsung president dj koh will be speaking as well as many other people from within the design and engineering teams at samsung as you know, the last physical sdc was in 2019, your seems like our world has kind of stopped but to be honest, the pace of technology keeps on moving and so nearly every samsung technology team will be there and they want to talk about all the innovation creation that they've done in the last two years so there'll be things announced for nearly every technology team from bixby and smartthings to mobile devices and smart tvs there's lots of information for developers that they will be able to use to create their own products for 2022 and beyond tony morelan 28 34 so really exciting sdc 21 is going to be october 26 eric cloninger 28 39 and if you want to attend, all you have to do is register at developer samsung com/sdc it's free to attend and we would love to see you there tony morelan 28 51 excellent hey, eric, thanks so much for being on the podcast super exciting to be back at it with sdc and i can't i can't wait for it eric cloninger 28 59 oh, absolutely it's really, it's the result of a year's worth of work by hundreds of people and we really want to share it with all the people out there tony morelan 29 10 yeah, it should be a great show right thanks, eric all right eric cloninger 29 13 thank you, tony closing 29 14 looking to start creating for samsung, download the latest tools to code your next app, or get software for designing apps without coding at all sell your apps to the world on the samsung galaxy store check out developer samsung com today and start your journey with samsung tony morelan 29 30 the pow! podcast is brought to you by the samsung developer program produced by tony morelan
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docintroduction galaxy smartphones make up the world's largest mobile gaming platform even a number of major game engine companies, publishers and studios are already collaborating with samsung, we announced the galaxy gamedev program at the 2016 samsung developer conference, where we extended our support beyond major players in the games industry to any developers creating games for galaxy devices new technologies are essential to creating high fidelity, high performance gaming experience in mobile devices samsung is committed to bringing new technology to our suite of galaxy products, such as; 64bit, multi-thread rendering and the new generation graphics api - vulkan samsung's galaxy gamedev team has engineers located in five strategic global locations to cover game developers from all over the world we ensure that our partners have the engineering support they need to launch the best gaming experiences on galaxy devices and strengthen the android ecosystem galaxy gamedev provides a variety of technical support options to assist developers there are 4 key areas gpu drivers gpu driver optimization and streamlining driver updates is a key area to making the most of hardware capabilities and maintaining optimized performance of a gpu samsung collaborated with google and the major gpu vendors like arm and qualcomm to develop and ship the new android feature game driver game driver provides the new way of updating gpu driver by store and this delivers more stable and better performing gpu driving for the target games now this functionality started with the limited number of major galaxy models and continues to scale with more devices soon tools & sdks samsung develops and supports its own tools & sdks like gpuwatch and galaxy gamesdk which help game developers to find resource bottlenecks and solve performance issues in real-time sdks are integrated with major game engines too like unity adaptive performances to guide developers with easy way of use developer support our gamedev engineers are available to support developers in multiple ways, from answering general day-to-day development questions all the way to on-site engineering collaboration a deep engagement with on-site support is available to developers who have signed a confidentiality agreement with samsung game engines supporting the optimization of game engines is key to wide distribution of optimization samsung’s gamedev team are focused on supporting game engines, which ensures that games released through the engine's ecosystem achieve the significant optimizations that would normally be delivered into just one game partners samsung keeps working closely with more than 50 partners including game studio, publisher, tool developers, game engine companies and gpu vendors
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docseason 1, episode 14 previous episode | episode index | next episode this is a transcript of one episode of the samsung developers podcast, hosted by and produced by tony morelan a listing of all podcast transcripts can be found here host tony morelan product manager, samsung developers instagram - twitter - linkedin guests hyunah kwon, charlotte allen samsung electronics in the season one finale of pow, i interview charlotte allen and hyunah kwon charlotte is the driving force behind samsung's annual best of galaxy store awards, and hyunah is the director of product for galaxy store not only do we talk about the history of the awards, past highlights of previous awards, but we chat about exciting new changes to galaxy store, and our upcoming 2020 best of galaxy store awards show more about the best of galaxy store awards celebrating the year’s top performing apps in creativity, quality, design, and innovation, the best of galaxy store awards are the ultimate achievement for samsung galaxy store sellers! join us on december 9th, 5 00pm pst, as we reveal and celebrate this years' winners! listen download this episode topics covered history of the best of galaxy store awards previous award winners galaxy store enhancements exclusive consumer benefits samsung rewards always-on points earning program pandemic impact galaxy store mobile gaming features growth and revenue galaxy store badges 2020 best of galaxy store awards show new award categories winner selections and promoting awards show trailer helpful links best of galaxy store awards - developer samsung com/best-of-galaxy-store galaxy store consumers - samsung com/global/galaxy/apps/galaxy-store galaxy store developers - developer samsung com/galaxy-store galaxy store marketing resources - developer samsung com/galaxy-store/marketing-resources html samsung rewards - samsung com/us/rewards/gaming galaxy store badges - developer samsung com/galaxy-store/gsb-promotion galaxy store games developers - developer samsung com/galaxy-games samsung developer program homepage - developer samsung com samsung developer program newsletter - developer samsung com/newsletter samsung developer program blog - developer samsung com/blog samsung developer program news - developer samsung com/news samsung developer program facebook - facebook com/samsungdev samsung developer program instagram - instagram com/samsung_dev samsung developer program twitter - twitter com/samsung_dev samsung developer program youtube - youtube com/samsungdevelopers samsung developer program linkedin - linkedin com/company/samsungdevelopers tony morelan linkedin - linkedin com/in/tony-morelan charlotte allen linkedin - linkedin com/in/allencharlotte hyunah kwon linkedin - linkedin com/in/hyunahkwon transcript note transcripts are provided by an automated service and reviewed by the samsung developers web team inaccuracies from the transcription process do occur, so please refer to the audio if you are in doubt about the transcript tony morelan 00 02 hey, i'm tony morelan and this is pow! podcast of wisdom from the samsung developer program, where we talk about the latest tech new trends and give insight into all the opportunities available for developers looking to create for samsung on today's show, i interview charlotte allen and hyunah kwon charlotte is the driving force behind samsung's annual best of galaxy store awards hyunah is the director of products for the galaxy store not only do we talk about the history of the awards, past highlights of previous awards, but we chat about exciting new changes to the galaxy store, and our upcoming award show where we will celebrate the amazing apps that will win awards during the 2020 best of galaxy store award show and what better way to celebrate our season finale of the power podcast enjoy hey, charlotte, nice to have you back on the podcast charlotte allen 00 52 i know it's been a while tony morelan 00 55 so for those that don't remember, or might have missed the episode, charlotte actually interviewed me at the beginning of the season so that our listeners could learn a little bit more about me, you know, find out who their host was and a lot has happened since then i think we've actually recorded about 12 episodes, but it has all been during this pandemic that we've been going through so it's been a crazy year, needless to say, but the galaxy store has been going strong this is the last episode, the season finale and what better way than to discuss the best of galaxy store awards for 2020 so i would love to talk a little bit about the history of the awards charlotte has been working on this awards program since its inception can you explain to the audience what are the best of galaxy store awards? charlotte allen 01 44 yeah, absolutely the b best of galaxy store awards were created to recognize apps that have stood out amongst the crowd in the us galaxy store we look for excellence in innovation, design, creativity, quality and performance so i've been with samsung for several years now and they know that we've been doing this award show during that time but when did the awards first start, the program was launched in 2018 as a pilot, recognizing just five galaxy store publishers our goal in creating the program was to acknowledge and celebrate the contributions of designers developers to samsung's ecosystem tony morelan 02 23 this will be the third year then charlotte allen 02 27 right we are now in our third year, as you said, we increase the awards to five categories in over 20 winners so we've come a long way in three short years, and we expect to continue to grow the best up galaxy store awards program in the future so where were those previous award shows held the inaugural best of galaxy store award ceremony in 2018, was held at the samsung developer conference at the moscone center in san francisco last year's award ceremony was held at sdc 2019, at the san jose convention center and we recognize 25 developers and designers from around the world and 21 of those winners were in attendance, which was great to see and he showed us how important this recognition is from samsung tony morelan 03 14 yeah, i was actually the host of the award show last year in san jose and that was my highlight was actually meeting these developers for the first time, you know, we've been communicating with them, you know, throughout the year, but to actually meet them face to face, and to see how rewarding it was for them to receive this award that was definitely an amazing moment charlotte allen 03 34 yeah, i agree it was also, i think, rewarding and inspiring for us to see, you know, their excitement and just how much effort they put into getting their work yeah, definitely let's talk about some of these past recipients but where's the best way for people to learn, like who won in 2018, who won in 2019 so we have a great list of winners now, having done this for two years and going into our third so a list with our past winners can be found on samsung's developer program site on the best of galaxy store landing page, and it features over 30 step galaxy store award winners and that is tony morelan 04 12 developer samsung com and if you go there, you can navigate over to the to the galaxy award page yes, charlotte allen 04 19 yes, you can tony morelan 04 21 so having done this now for several years, i'm sure you've got a highlight tell me you know if you have a special story about maybe a past winner, charlotte allen 04 28 yeah, there are several that come to mind but one that i'll share is we awarded bergen for best new watch face designer, and his award was picked up by the uruguay embassy who tweeted a congratulations to bergen and i thought that was really amazing tony morelan 04 44 that is and bergen is honestly an amazing designer ton of success he was the designer when i was first looking into starting myself selling watch faces i was seeing his work and i thought my god this guy is putting out you know; insanely creative watch faces and my goal was to try and you know, do something at his level i mean, he just amazing detail amazing depth, amazing features so when i was starting out, he was the one that i looked up to trying to emulate, you know, his success so great to see that he was awarded that year charlotte allen 05 20 wow, pretty, pretty amazing tony morelan 05 22 so who qualifies for you know, potentially winning a best of galaxy store award? charlotte allen 05 27 all galaxy store publishers qualify for bigger well-known brands to indie developers, designers, they all qualify tony morelan 05 33 that's, that's, that's great they'd love to see how open samsung is that? you know, it's not just a developer that is a big brand name but you know, we'd like to recognize even the small person, the indie developer, who is absolutely, you know, maybe doesn't have all of that experience, but it's still putting out great content so i thought it would be exciting if we actually brought somebody from the galaxy store team onto our podcast today so i would like to welcome hyunah kwon hi, hyunah hi, tony hi, charlotte thanks for inviting me so you are director of product galaxy store and games? can you tell me how long have you been in that role? hyunah kwon 06 13 i've been in this role since this year to work for galaxy store and games i've been in samsung for about 13 years, starting with my experience in mobile devices in different product management in this domain of mobile and we're very excited to expand to service businesses in samsung, and i'm in charge of galaxy store app as well as gaming ecosystem tony morelan 06 42 in samsung i had no idea you actually had been at samsung for that long can you tell us what is new with the galaxy store? hyunah kwon 06 48 yes, this year has been a full of exciting news and updates and changes with the galaxy store, we just launched a new version introducing an enhanced game discovery experience as you know, samsung has been fully committed to offer an excellent mobile gaming experience with our hardware it could be like this stunning screen experiences long battery and very powerful performance on a mobile gaming and now galaxy, gamers can actually visit the galaxy store to discover new games and they can view these stunning videos to learn more about the new games, they can pre-register for the upcoming seasons of their favorite games, and so forth for that we can also share more details and we also had interesting gear for all types of apps and content we've been seeing a growing consumption of digital contents in the context of endemic as you know so on the other hand, some people say that they're having a digital fatigue, if you will, caused by these exceptional circumstances so we worked on simplifying this experience and make the downloading experience really quick and easy for our consumers, helping users to find the content they need with the better fit recommendations, as well as our editors recommendations for them as well and we also refreshed our design with a clean and harmonious look for example, now you will see it very reduced banner sizes here and there, we ensure that pleasant browsing experience and downloading and the best part is the exclusive benefits that our consumers love about galaxy store so we offer new promotions events almost every week for example, in the us market remember, we integrated samsung rewards last year so that users could spam their points against their purchase in our store earlier this year since july, we launched an always on points earning program so now users can earn three points for every dollar spent with whether you purchase an app or a theme or enough items in your game app so the more they enjoy galaxy store, and the more they can get rewarded tony morelan 09 09 know that is specifically for us customers, correct? hyunah kwon 09 14 yes, so many other countries could have some different programs but this is in the us that sounds amazing tony morelan 09 21 so i thought it was interesting you said that because of the pandemic because of covid that you've actually seen an increase in people using their apps, and then they're starting to get the fatigue with it is that that's correct hyunah kwon 09 33 yes so the pandemic has been overwhelming for everyone, for sure but it also was a great opportunity for some in many app developers so we could see gaming industry, for example, has been really booming utilizing this opportunity and media, the chance watching videos, or checking on news and healthcare app that user can you know, i actually spend a lot more time on the at home so things like health care at home improvement apps has been actually pretty popular too and overall, we had really great and busy year, we'll collaborate with our developers this year to help them really growing tony morelan 10 18 yeah, that's, that's great to see that, you know, even though this is, you know, an unfortunate thing that our world is going through with a pandemic, that you found ways to help people out more, you know, considering that they are having to better devices and access this information so you had mentioned also that you're involved with the gaming aspect of it can you tell me, are there any new features for gamers? hyunah kwon 10 38 yes, so we have simply fire up in two parts one is the gaming another part is the access all the collection of the contents that we provide for galaxy users so in that game tab, you will see an immersive the game discovery area if you think about gaming in general has been developing, you now see a games that are very spectacular, they have a story in it, you can interact multiple players all together, you can create a history or you can, you know, be really in a deeper side of your action all of that is pretty similar in movie industry, if you think about it so when you watch a movie, you generally check a minute the trailer just to make sure you are watching a good movie, it's the same for games, we're providing our gamers the ability to discover what this game is about, and how they would play the download this game another party's our game introduction page, what we call the detail page of the app has been recolored refreshed, so that they can actually see some very valid information about the games, we are providing a tag information, it can be something like this game is about a multiplayer game it's a strategy rpg, or if it's casual gaming, or this game is featuring a medieval setting, with all kinds of information like that we are including more than 300 pack information, so that you can really see what these game is characterized for also some real time stats-based information, like you can see all these games, some are very popular, there's 10,000 users downloading this game at the moment right now, or it can be you know, 300 people are actually playing this particular game and i think it's very important to highlight the personalized information is very key for our success as we mentioned earlier, this is very important for any user to enjoy their experience not spending too much time making their efforts, there's this fatigue about finding the right apps for me, etc so we also use a lot of user database recommendation that they can find the relevant game for them and lastly, our galaxy store has been very appreciated by our speed to download and installation so our consumers really love about our quick download feature, we actually feature this little button that you can directly install and download from what you're previewing from, you don't need to go through the detail page and click another time to download we're just giving them a direct access to download so we call we call that a quick download as well tony morelan 13 37 that's great i know that that is a feature that i would definitely appreciate so for developers that have joined the samsung developer program, how can members grow their user base in their revenue hyunah kwon 13 52 share our strategy is to empower our developer partners by enhancing our platform that support them so obviously, there's many ways to grow their apps and their performance there are many resources available, so publishers on the galaxy store to support their success and one thing that i'd like to highlight is these days, in particular, the app discovery is really diversifying so customers are learning about their new app that anymore in their app store like we did 10 years ago and they're actually learning from their friends and social media, a lot many different channels so the optimization of the contents inside our store is still being very important but managing growth from multi-channel approach becomes even more important galaxy store is having our batch feature galaxies or batches that drive customers from their multiple channel of discovery to galaxy store pages in a single click and that improves a conversion by optimizing your discovery channel as well as all the listing information, you're providing a nice detail page and we are going to provide more and more resources for you to optimize that listing information and grow the app developers revenues to help our developers succeed in their acquisition campaigns with the galaxy store or optimizing their customer journey from discovery to download we are also working with the leading mobile measurement partners so that developers can measure their campaign performance and to end with the accurate data and generally, what we would recommend as tactics for growth will be things like, you know, generating more traffic and top of the funnel traffic, and from there, how to optimize their download conversion and, as you know, download is not the end, most partners are frustrated, i get so many downloads, what i'm not where why am i not growing from there? i think we also can help on our developers to manage their paid conversion and retention, because retention also is a key for your success and growth and i would always advise people to lean into the customer lifetime value, rather than focusing on the download number itself tony morelan 16 21 can you tell me how developers can learn how to maximize their growth with the with the galaxy store? hyunah kwon 16 26 yes, sure so as i mentioned before, there's lots of packets of growth available so in terms of generating traffic, you can rely on us campaigns, it can be digital campaign, it can be social media campaigns, and we're going to be supportive on all your campaign executions if you need a specific resource to optimize your campaign, please reach out to our team as well, as very importantly, users are browsing from their search engine so obviously, the search engine optimization techniques, or search engine-based advertising, all this traffic and also come into our store and we can optimize that flow for your growth as well in terms of download conversion, which is happening within our app, we are continuously improving our detail page optimization tools, as well as we would encourage our developers to manage their own reviews of their apps so we are providing the way that the developers can prompt their reviews, and allowing their users to write the positive reviews about their apps so that we can also optimize our conversion that way, so that way, we are continuously updating our product and we believe it's important to provide our updated information on what developers can do with us so we are planning to provide all this further information through block past webinars and dedicated resources and now developer portal as soon as our new features on our platform is available so i would encourage all developers to visit our developer@samsung com and stay tuned for more updates and you can also sign up for our newsletter so that you can get this information available from galaxies tony morelan 18 25 yeah, in the in the link to sign up for the newsletter is developer samsung com/newsletter and i'll be sure to include all of these links that you've mentioned in the in the show notes so hyunah, i absolutely appreciate you taking the time to join me on the podcast today love seeing how the galaxy store is evolving and super excited with what's coming up in the near future so thanks again for joining us hyunah kwon 18 49 thanks, tony for inviting me to the podcast it was a pleasure tony morelan 18 54 so charlotte, getting back to the awards for this year i know that the pandemic obviously has affected everybody in in many different ways can you tell us how it's actually impacting the award show for this year? charlotte allen 19 07 it is in fact in many in person events this year as we know, including our best of galaxy store awards 2020 award ceremony, which is typically held at sdc our developer conference, this year's best of galaxy store awards 2020 ceremony will be held virtually, and premiered on youtube on december 9 2020 at 5pm pacific standard time so stay tuned to the best galaxy store awards page if you're not a member of our samsung developer program or bixby developers, now is a great time to register to get all the updates and features i just shared tony morelan 19 44 excellent so i know in the past, in order to attend the award show you had to attend our conference, which meant you had to come out to the bay area here and admission into the conference this year though, is that going to be different charlotte allen 19 55 the exciting thing for me is this year for the first time anyone can and attend and like you shared, the awards are typically held at our conference and even then, sometimes sessions conflict with our award ceremony but this year, anyone can attend and so we're really looking forward to having a great crowd attend this year's awards tony morelan 20 15 yeah, no, i am excited too, as well we talked about how the award show has been growing from originally, it was just the five awards and now we've expanded we're up over 20 awards can you talk about some of the new categories for this year? charlotte allen 20 28 yes, this year's awards will acknowledge over 20 winners in five categories and the categories include best app, this game best the best watch, and we've added bixby to this year's best of galaxy store awards and we're really excited about that tony morelan 20 44 yeah earlier this year, i did a podcast interview with roger kibbe, at bixby on the viv lab team so super excited they're going to be joining us and in awarding their developers yeah, that is very exciting talking about the winners can you tell me how are winners selected? charlotte allen 21 01 winners are selected by our galaxy store team who do a yearly editorial review of all apps published to the galaxy store? tony morelan 21 09 what would you say is the biggest challenge with the with the award selection? charlotte allen 21 14 i would say narrowing down the list of winners the galaxy store offers expertly curated quality apps, which means we have a lot of great apps on the galaxy store tony morelan 21 24 yeah, i know because i've been involved with the with the selection and awarding process and it is a challenge because you know, we've got a team that goes through all this and it makes their nominations and, and their selection as to who they think should win and sometimes you know what your favorite app may be different than my favorite app so we get to battle it out yeah, to figure out who is the winner for that award? yes so what is it that the samsung developer program team is doing to help promote the winners, charlotte allen 21 54 winners are featured in galaxy store merchandising for the award ceremony, we have a best of galaxy store press release that samsung does one winner per category is chosen to be featured in that press release however, winners can write a press release with a quote from samsung as well we do post winner developer marketing newsletters, blogs, and podcasts interviews tony morelan 22 16 yeah, i'm actually really looking forward to next season in the podcast where i get a chance to interview some of some of these winners for the best of awards that should be a lot of fun now that you and i and our team has been involved with a selection process for the awards can you tell me what is your favorite award? charlotte allen 22 36 hmm, that's a tough one i would say if i had to choose, i would say that collections, the theme collections and the watch collections because it shows a body of amazing work right and so i think that if i had to choose, i would say that be my favorite what about you? tony morelan 22 55 you know, my favorite, i think it's the fact that we do recognize those indie developers so it's the small, you know, new independent designer, that's they've just put together this amazing app and we're recognizing that so you don't have to be this big brand, you don't have to have, you know, a large collection, i love the fact that we are awarding those large collections, because it's an amazing, you know, opportunity for us to recognize when a designer has just got this amazing library of work but i'd love the fact that we also recognize that individual, one key design that just stands out so you know, you can even be the little developer and we're still going to find yeah, and then recognize you for your great work so what advice do you have for developers hoping to be considered for future awards? charlotte allen 23 45 the biggest advice i can share is marketing your work digitally socially, as it drives awareness, it drives, downloads, ratings, and reviews and if you have not already done so, download the galaxy batch, it supports marketing your ad driving users to the galaxy store to download or purchase your app so my biggest advice is, if you have not posted it to your site, i encourage you to do it today tony morelan 24 12 yeah, definitely and in the reason being is that we need you to show up on our radar so if you put out a great app, and it's not showing up in our in our analytics of you know, top selling apps or apps that are being downloaded, we're not going to find it so it's a great way for us to find your app is when you're doing all of that marketing push behind it, then once we see it, then we can dive into a little deeper and see if it's worthy of the award but yeah, you definitely have to get traction on your app from a social standpoint, that's a huge way for us to discover your apps so what's the best way for people to learn more about the best of galaxy store awards charlotte allen 24 54 we have a galaxy store landing page on our samsung developer program site and there, you'll find details about the program updates on the best of galaxy store awards 2020 and highlights from past year's awards, including winner interviews yeah tony morelan 25 09 and as a reminder, that is developer samsung com and from there, you can navigate over to the galaxy store awards page, all the links that we were mentioning, and the podcast will be included in the show notes so you can check there can you tell me, are there any upcoming news that you can share that's related to the award show? charlotte allen 25 29 we have some upcoming blogs, we're going to take a look back at some of last year's winners, highlight some of their successes, and really begin promoting the best of galaxy store awards 2020 as we get near to the virtual award ceremony, and we really can't wait tony morelan 25 47 yeah, and one thing i'd like to share is that we are working on a trailer a little teaser for the award show the trailer will be released exactly 30 days before the award show so on november 9, we will be releasing our little teaser trailer for the award show so be sure to stay tuned for that so charlotte, thank you very much for joining me on the podcast today and sharing all of the information about the award show really appreciate you coming on the podcast charlotte allen 26 16 thanks it's great to be back again tony morelan 26 18 and just to sign off, this is our final episode of season one of the podcast i hope you all have enjoyed not just this episode, but the prior 13 episodes that we did that make up season one of the power podcast we look forward to having you join us next year we're going to start the new year off with season two and we are really excited with the shows that were lining up and you definitely will be hearing from some of the winners of our best of galaxy store awards for 2020 so thank you very much outro 26 51 looking to start creating for samsung, download the latest tools to code your next app, or get software for designing apps without coding at all sell your apps to the world on the samsung galaxy store check out developer samsung com today and start your journey with samsung the pow! podcast is brought to you by the samsung developer program and produced by tony morelan
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docseason 1, episode 5 previous episode | episode index | next episode this is a transcript of one episode of the samsung developers podcast, hosted by and produced by tony morelan a listing of all podcast transcripts can be found here host tony morelan senior developer evangelist, samsung developers instagram - twitter - linkedin guests aurelien lavaud global associate director of business development, gameloft / asphalt 9 linkedin david bitton, senior global account manager, samsung linkedin in this episode of pow, special guest host david bitton, senior global account manager at samsung, interviews aurelien lavaud, global associate director of business development at gameloft david and aurelien not only talk about the amazing success of the asphalt franchise racing game, but also the partnership between samsung, gameloft and the vivendi group, the global entertainment and media company that owns gameloft listen download this episode topics covered gameloft history samsung partnership the vivendi group asphalt 9 licensing best of galaxy store awards 2019 more about gameloft & asphalt 9 gameloft is a french video game publisher based in paris the company operates 19 development studios worldwide, and publishes games with a special focus on the mobile games market try asphalt 9 for a spin on your samsung device! go to galaxy store to download, drive your favorite hyper-car and become a racing legend today! helpful links gameloft com asphaltlegends com facebook content creators transcript note transcripts are provided by an automated service and reviewed by the samsung developers web team inaccuracies from the transcription process do occur, so please refer to the audio if you are in doubt about the transcript tony morelan 00 02 hey, i'm tony morelan and this is pow! podcast of wisdom from the samsung developer program, where we talk about the latest tech new trends and give insight into all the opportunities available for developers looking to create for samsung on today's show, we're doing something a little different our interview is with gameloft, the french gaming company that won the 2019 best of galaxy store award for best racing game asphalt 9 david bitton, senior global account manager at samsung sat in as a guest host to chat with aurelien lavaud, global associate director of business development at gameloft david and aurelien not only talk about the amazing success of the asphalt franchise, but also the partnership between samsung, gameloft and the vendee group, the global entertainment and media company that owns gameloft and what else is unique about this interview, both david and aurelien are originally from france, but david currently lives in korea and aurelien lives in vietnam and the music that you're going to hear in this podcast? well that's all the official music from the soundtrack from asphalt 9 enjoy david bitton 01 12 hello, welcome to this session so i'm david bitton, senior business development manager at samsung and based in korea today i'm very excited to have a volunteer from gameloft, the game company behind the asphalt franchise so olivia, welcome hello, david, aurelien lavaud 01 31 how are you? david bitton 01 32 good thank you let me start by asking a basic question who is okay yeah aurelien lavaud 01 38 level i'm already a level global by director of business development gambler so my daily routine consists in creating and deploying public partnerships with manufacturers all around the world and what i love in this in this job is such gives me the chance to be at the front line of innovation, discovering new technological trends that i can then use to provide insight to a developer on teams and improve, keep improving your games so i also used to be on vr on the sides two years ago, you aflac i took part in the development of some iconic titles, such as the revamped versions of snake or tea trees so i try to always have this double heart with the understanding of technical feasibility within the business model, the business directions we want to implement on a more personal level, i'm fortunate to be based in vietnam, in southeast asia, very beautiful new age, and i will i highly recommend to visit if you're into hiking, or kayaking me to an amazing wildlife so that's what i'm trying to do enjoy as much as i can on my feet hi david bitton 02 48 yeah, that sounds exciting, especially because i'm based in korea so that's not that that's far so yeah, that could be a great a great opportunity can you talk a little bit more about the history of gameloft? aurelien lavaud 03 04 certainly so gamma was created in 2000, with a patient for games and the desire to bring them to even more pay on the war by bringing the wonders of games to mobile devices, we have creating a one new market that became 20 years later, the biggest market in gaming so what we did over the years was shipping companies to be able to deliver this vision and today we are 4600 employees, over 17 developers to throw the war and where people are working hard to bring new games to a wide range of devices with ad hoc or patient david bitton 03 46 that that's great you said that you have 17 development studios around the world so that's quite big, more than 4000 employees and you also have a very large game portfolio so, again last is it like the more games, the better? aurelien lavaud 04 04 well, i talk all we want everyone to play and we believe there's a different game for everyone so no matter the device, language, the region or the general, we try to make it available so having a very powerful you come with logic and we provide for brain wide range of different experiences for a wide range of people preferences david bitton 04 30 okay just to dive a little bit more into your, into this samsung partnership out of curiosity, how long have you been working with samsung as a partner? and how did that start? because i guess, from what i know, that's, that's quite a long-time partnership here that we are talking about aurelien lavaud 04 51 yes, we have been working with them for more than 15 years wow so we started on the feature phones at the time java devices were king dennis pink starting to pick up on truth 2010 with project on the first something series, and we had the asphalt wcag series that we signed that was memorable, made a lot of noise and later on in 2019, we are refreshed and we started our collaboration with another big name game of catalog with yes one nine on the galaxy app store that was off a long list of games coming david bitton 05 34 as we as we know game lost is also a part of the of the vivendi group which is a global entertainment and media company so how do you see opportunities and synergies not only internally within your different business units and sister companies but also externally with your partnership with samsung aurelien lavaud 05 59 we have already been developing great synergies, especially with kind of priests we developed by putting on a run and we walked into with universal music on the fallout by integrating in as well i, i see on some of the older partnerships like disney, we were working with them before prior to the acquisition david bitton 06 20 and speaking of these of these games, you mentioned that disney for example what are the games currently included in the in the partnership does the first question and second question for you would be what were the criteria to include them in the in the partnership? aurelien lavaud 06 39 usually we started with asphalt 9 games it was perfect timing because we are now celebrating the 15th birthday of our series happy birthday thank you so i will introduce later you can reach asphalt 9 facebook page or we also have a dedicated website as www asphalt9 com where you can discover everything about just full series along these 15 years and you can enjoy some, some gift that can take part to some to some get involved into the hype game and david bitton 07 23 i will certainly do that yeah, aurelien lavaud 07 24 thank you for furthering the discussion after asphalt nine we started working on dragon manual agents together at disney magic kingdom and legally it wasn't necessary great now we are also working on some stuff too and we are planning to release in next month on the samsung galaxy app store david bitton 07 46 great, great so more and more games are coming but if we if we want to get a little bit more specifics on the asphalt 9 because there was a second of the aurelien lavaud 07 58 game here asphalt 9 offers like a fully licensed cars so initially how much time did it take for us for asphalt nine to team to convince the most prestigious brands to join the game to create enough momentum to stop the engine? no pun intended so yeah, we've been working with car manufacturer for more than 15 years now so the process was asphalt nine was actually quite smooth, because we had already a lot of a lot of partners on board what happened is that we present into game to twitch partner and we are all very excited to be part of the adventure so we got already all most of most of all, car manufacturers david bitton 08 48 some early discussion to launching a model from a new car manufacturer earlier, how long does it usually take to incorporate this discard into the into the game aurelien lavaud 09 00 while dvd it will already depend licensor for the partners we already work with, it's pretty fast, it's a human but on the partner we want the new partners that we want to integrate into games to work with us we need to pitch the game first and then create some legal contracts and we are more on we own a few months up to one year david bitton 09 29 and now that asphault nine is celebrating its 15th birthday so that's kind of nice teenager and is getting also more popular do car manufacturers also promote a sold night in their own channels? aurelien lavaud 09 45 yeah, i put is a very interesting that they do we recently launched into the coming season and license or use these two promos, every kid on their social network oh great great on top of that, with longtime relationship with bree to them we are often walking in close partnership to have some unique experience to our users so as an example, we collaborated recently with lamborghini so top players could be invited in lamborghini hq in italy david bitton 10 20 i think there was a mistake here because i didn't get invited so i would love to maybe to play a little bit more on the on assaulter so, aurelien lavaud 10 31 yes, train a train half an hour and you may be the next one david bitton 10 35 okay, okay so i will play and repeat just for a forum actually, the samsung ran many asphault nine tournaments included, including in the netherlands, korea, the us at our annual developer conference in south africa as well when usually trying to promote the launch of new devices like galaxy note 10, for example, or when running some events like galaxy studio around the world so thanks to them to the customization of this publicly available ap can gain we could we could offer a unique experience to our users so i guess that the different teams involved the there must have had some extra hours of developing testing and as we said, playing as well right in the tribe we have been putting a lot of work on this live demo units, give you some numbers we are looking at around 300 hours of testing wow so that was heavy, but i needed to make sure all the products were top notch yeah and our latest developer conference in the in the us, you went on stage to receive a best of a world in the in the racing category for us asphalt 9 so what was your feeling regarding this, this event aurelien lavaud 12 16 that we're feeling was amazing i mean from via reception or via word to the game booth that was welcoming a huge crowd of people eager to play asphault nine on the lattice samsung galaxy fold it was three more i believe in david bitton 12 33 and in speaking of galaxy fold, actually, you also on book two to create a customized version of the game for galaxy fold that that would support app continuity so from your side, partner perspective, what were the lessons learned there during this, this approach and the development? aurelien lavaud 12 57 i think this project was particular interesting because quilted was new for the team they had never been walking on, on this feature so what they were discovering, and they were eating, they were eating some wood blocks so at some points, they weren't progressing anymore and that's where they started, we started to connect or different developers seem together with your ui on the team at samsung and we were able to overcome to overcome the difficulties that both teams were working together to deliver our very nice products and to make sure that we can keep this continuity and move from one screen to another two tablets off when we opened it to the device, without any interruption without any change so it was quite collaboration and we learned a lot from this david bitton 13 52 let's switch gears here and admit and let's talk about the future if i if i may so 90s is right now in full, full speed again, happy birthday assault without revealing any trade secrets, i was wondering what would trigger the release of assault then? would that be like a new game engine on which you're working on or some kind of revolutionary user experience? could you could you share a little bit more about that? aurelien lavaud 14 26 should they so i will probably disappoint everybody but at the moment we are not planning to release something yet there's a reason behind is that there are a lot of work to do on asphault nine so as for nine i've never been so successful there are plenty of new features and contents we are planning to offer on asphault nine so objective is really to prove us on nine first, to focus on innovation to make sure we can integrate new features new contents, new cars, new tracks to deliver perfect and expanse of course will promote ensuring new technologies as well and there will be integrated into us online but no vision at the moment for us have felt any relief because we still have so much work to do and david bitton 15 14 understood so, as you as you mentioned, you said that you regularly add content you features so, would you have any exciting location coming up soon for as for nine aurelien lavaud 15 28 bring a new location is always a very important part of the game because it helps us to rediscover the game unfortunately, i will not be able to deliver any information in wales next tracks will be what i can do is to invite user to general on a facebook page where we are trying to keep the hype to make the user guess what is the next track so you can take parts to the discussion, you can get involved on the facebook page you will get more insights step by step on the new tracks we are planning to release okay? okay the other thing i can tell is that we also have this this content creator opportunity so you can go on www asphaultnine com/creators and he, you can take part into the content creation show interested so you can get more insight on where the game is heading you can get more involved into the game okay, okay, a way to keep the hype going david bitton 16 30 your team i mean, the asphalt 19 aurelien lavaud 16 34 as a unique expertise in racing, modeling cause even experiencing crashes, for example so, actually, i have two questions here is their first any plan to leverage this expertise for a new racing game from the same team does the first question and second question more generally, how much of transferable skills feels a dedicated studio team can have when it comes to creating games indeed, we have some studios that are specialized in different games but overall, there's a lot of shared knowledge and synergies between the different teams so, our promise to you is the same for you or at company level we work on different types of titles, different types of channels and different for different audiences but based on the resources leads based on the experience of the team, we will be able to be flexible and to bring people to support us our team to allocate resources differently on the project that we need needs to last so we always try to develop or games or team and grow people to make sure they can, they can move to a different type of projects to a difference a different type of develop different type of skills and they can yeah david bitton 18 01 okay, okay great, great going back to this partnership with samsung, any exciting plan you would like to develop in the, in the future with a samsung any, any specific any specific ideas that you that you would have to grow to grow the business aurelien lavaud 18 18 actually we are very open and now since we started with the partnership we were really impressed with all the innovations you guys we are bringing so we could be looking at other new technologies from artificial intelligence to augmented reality virtual reality cloud gaming we are going to explore it a bit everything and we just probably need the time to see what kind of walk and how we can do this together david bitton 18 54 exciting just between you and me if you will to own one of these hyper cars that that are available in asphalt nine if you if you don't have the already, which one? would it be? would you have any preference for a specific hyper car? and second question, where would you drive this car? aurelien lavaud 19 17 unfortunately, i do not have any of these cats i wish i did i wish i do but no, i have a sweet spot for the cats sharon i would i think it would be quite nice to drive it on the italian coast so we could have a clever, nice, nice view on the mediterranean sea and enjoy the ride david bitton 19 44 okay, this this sounds nice yeah just to just to finish here with a last question we do have any closing comments for developers out there? aurelien lavaud 19 57 yes as a matter of fact i have so we were very happy with sort of the experience we do guys is i think it's a very good experience to walk with samsung in the way that you've always been super supportive so i was about studying when we were developing dual screen, the team was the wizard team was hitting some roadblocks and, and in both for the teams working together, to fix everything, and to bring things forward we were also quite impressed with all those new features and new technologies you are developing on your recent models and for us, give us a way to improve the game experience for the user to provide to users new features, and to deliver a more memorable game experience david bitton 20 48 okay, yeah so, two things that are here for to do thank you first happy birthday again to the asphalt franchise and second, thanks thank you for your time again i hope we could we could shed some light on our partnership between samsung and again last and also get developers excited so earlier thank you thank you again for your time aurelien lavaud 21 16 thank you very much for the invitation on this podcast was very, very interesting and i really hope we can develop new technologies and develop organs further on samsung devices outro 21 30 looking to start creating for samsung, download the latest tools to code your next app, or get software for designing apps without coding at all sell your apps to the world on the samsung galaxy store check out www developersamsung com today and start your journey with samsung the pow! podcast is brought to you by the samsung developer program and produced by tony morelan
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docseason 2, episode 8 previous episode | episode index | next episode this is a transcript of one episode of the samsung developers podcast, hosted by and produced by tony morelan a listing of all podcast transcripts can be found here host tony morelan senior developer evangelist, samsung developers instagram - twitter - linkedin guests aleksander tyszka, hyun kim, dan appelquist, aaron swift, roger kibbe, sooyeon kim, eric cloninger samsung developer conference after taking a year off due to the pandemic, we recently held our annual developer conference, sdc21 this year’s conference was a virtual conference, with insightful highlight sessions and in-depth tech talks in this episode, i sit down with several samsung insiders, to recap the many highlights from this year’s show we'll chat about one ui 4, the samsung incubation program, smartthings, bixby, our partnership with google and the new watch ecosystem, samsung internet and our new podcast platform listen download this episode topics covered samsung incubation program one ui 4 samsung internet smartthings bixby developers watch ecosystem samsung podcast platform transcript note transcripts are provided by an automated service and reviewed by the samsung developers web team inaccuracies from the transcription process do occur, so please refer to the audio if you are in doubt about the transcript tony morelan 00 01 hey, i'm tony morelan, and this is pow!, the samsung developers podcasts, where we chat with innovators using samsung technologies, award winning app developers and designers, as well as insiders working on the latest samsung tools welcome to season two, episode eight after taking a year off due to the pandemic, we recently held our annual developer conference sdc21 this year's conference was a virtual conference with insightful highlight sessions in in depth tech talks in this episode, i sit down with several samsung insiders to recap some of the great moments from this year's show we'll chat about one ui 4, the samsung incubation program, smartthings, the new watch ecosystem, samsung internet and a new podcast platform enjoy so at sdc21, one of the most interesting talk sessions that i watched was the kafir innovator session where they talked about the samsung incubation program and joining me on the podcast is someone who works closely with that incubation program, alec tyszka, who's a manager technology strategy and partnerships at samsung yeah, welcome to the podcast hey, tony, how are you doing? well, let's start with what is the samsung incubation program? aleksander tyszka 01 20 sure so samsung innovation program is an incubation program that we've launched already in europe a few years back, and that we've expanded this year in the us the program itself has two main goals is one we want our business unit so you know, different groups at samsung that work on digital appliances, tvs, smartphones, wearables, we want to give them a way to do very sort of rapid prototyping to quickly develop new products and services but very highly innovative ones things that weren't organically be created if we just did our everyday work the other one is to also be able to work with the labs that samsung have done work on, though, on long term projects, we want to have sort of all the brands that that leverage all the brands we have at samsung to create these, these this long-term vision that we have about what are the services that people are going to use? what are the products that people are going to need, and try to find a way to bring these products and services to life? tony morelan 02 22 yeah, so i saw, you know, in that session where they, you know, talked about that, that need to innovate in some of those technologies that came out of those partnerships, where you know, like the health sensors with wearables, z fold, things like that, it's pretty interesting to think that those technologies came out of those partnership collaborations aleksander tyszka 02 41 yeah, i think when we start working with cutting edge technology, and you mentioned the z fold, especially some technologies i've been that have been developed internally at samsung, for flexible and foldable screens does are quite unique, right? there's only a handful of company that that make them in the world and then if you talk of, of the scale, by which we work with these, we don't make five foldable phones, right, we make 10s of millions so sure what when you work at this scale, with those sort of cutting-edge bleeding edge technology, it just takes a lot, a lot of efforts to bring them to life and samsung alone can't really do it, we need to find partners, and we need to work with them and those are typically startups and all that all sort of the people that work around startups, incubators, accelerators, venture capitalist industry experts, in we need to find the solutions to improve the product and bring these products to life tony morelan 03 34 yeah, and i'm sure that, you know, having that collaboration with those, those innovators really help you like think ahead, thinking to the future, you know, where do you need to go? where do you need to focus your energy? so it's great that there is this program to allow samsung to work with these, these innovators so tell me what are some of the details of the of the program aleksander tyszka 03 54 so the program itself is a six-month long program, we get we'll provide some funding stun company, anywhere from 20 to 100k, depending on what the companies do, if it's hardware, a software, there's no string attached with this funding, we don't take any equity and like some of the big household names like y combinator is 500 startups and then we provide a lot of mentoring, mostly technical mentoring from our engineers and our labs sure and the idea is just to help them build a prototype help them showcase a demo to our executive immediately after the program after six months, two years, two outcomes we're really looking for and then we'll qualify as successful outcomes is either investment or commercialization meaning we'll work with the companies will leverage our solution to build a product tony morelan 04 41 ah, that's great so in the call for innovator session, what was the key highlight the key takeaway from that session? aleksander tyszka 04 47 sure the key highlight for us is really that we need partners we want to be part of the ecosystem and we want to give back that ecosystem you know, startups are a major part of that ecosystem they're very forward looking we want to, we want to leverage their ideas, and we want to contribute positively to them want to help them and we want to be able to connect with the entire ecosystem behind the startups, the universities, the vcs, incubators, we want to work with all these people that's the main takeaway is samsung wants to remain, you know, very innovative, but we want to do it tony morelan 05 22 with partners you know, my takeaway from that session was hearing that success story fibricheck, where they created that on device, ecg sensing, that would help detect irregular and rapid heart rate using ai in our in our galaxy watch and seeing that, you know, it wasn't just that we provided funding, but it was that collaboration where you know, where we helped build the medical grade application, we, you know, helped with the regulatory approval, but then also learning that that we helped with, you know, define what their business model was in their in their go to market strategy that was really neat to see that that success story that was shared aleksander tyszka 06 02 yeah, i think for especially when companies in the health space, right, we did that, that's a pretty fragmented space, right? there's a lot of device manufacturers in many different countries that have their own sort of regulatory constraints by working with these types of companies, we provide a very sort of great way, a great go to market strategy for them, it's sort of built in, it's like, here's our wearables, we sell, you know, 10s of millions of them every year and they're very standard, they're easy to integrate, and well will support older go to market, going through retail stores, and those sort of things i mean, it makes it easier for the company right to quickly grow their company and for help, specifically, that fear check is such a great example of the sort of things we're trying to achieve, right and there's a ton more we can do at that space, people are talking about noninvasive, continuous glucose monitoring, maybe hydration as well in the future, and we want to find a company building these features and try to work with them tony morelan 07 01 yeah, and, you know, just at large, we've got this enormous ecosystem, you know, with our devices, you know, with galaxy store smartthings, bixby and there's just so many areas that we can be involved with aleksander tyszka 07 11 yeah, the ecosystem we provide is it's huge and it's sometimes it's hard for us to prioritize which companies we want to bring in into that ecosystem, right but going through a program like samsung's incubation program, were able to quickly filter for the best partners and focus our efforts, our efforts, sorry, on the ones that were most contribute to that ecosystem tony morelan 07 32 so it was great to hear you know, all about the samsung incubation program, what is the best way for people to connect with your team? aleksander tyszka 07 41 so we will have a website up and running pretty soon until then you can email us at info jump@samsung com tony morelan 07 49 so there were a lot of great sessions at sdc21 what were some of the favorite sessions that you saw that developers should check out? aleksander tyszka 07 56 yeah, i think the first one i have in mind is the one on the foldable device, i have a full device myself, i really, really like it, i get a lot of comment when people see it and then when they know and looking at stuff with it, there's basically different modes, right? you can you can use the front screen and use it like a regular device but the second you fold it, like a 45-degree angle, you want the app to act differently with the application so a good example of that is what if it became sort of like a gameboy where you have your screen on one on one ends? and bottom part of your controllers? yeah and there's a lot more use case like that what about video conferencing tool where you can see other people in the top screen in the bottom screen is a whiteboard where people can collaborate so i think there's a lot of use cases that can develop and we haven't even begun sort of scratching the surface of what can be devops so i look forward to see more developers think about that start developing around that and see what they can come up with tony morelan 08 49 excellent that's great hey, alec, i really appreciate you coming on the podcast today it was it was wonderful to learn much more about what you guys are doing at the samsung incubation program aleksander tyszka 08 58 oh, thank you very much for having me tony was a pleasure excellent thanks tony morelan 09 01 so one ui four was one of the biggest announcements we made at sdc and i'm excited to have on the podcast, head of the core ux group for samsung mobile, he and kim hyun kim 09 12 hi, i'm leon kim, and for inviting me and it's very exciting to be joining podcast tony morelan 09 19 so when you why is the user interface installed on samsung devices and was originally released back in 2019 for people who are listening to the podcast that might not be familiar with the details of one ui? can you give us a brief overview? hyun kim 09 32 oh, sure one ui means entire software experience that galaxy devices are delivering to our users, meaning it actually includes productivity experience and watching videos and privacy experience, onboarding experience and all different services and apps and all that our customer can enjoy from galaxy devices tony morelan 09 56 you gave a highlight session at sdc on the soon to be released one ui four that was really insightful can you share some of the key takeaways from that session? hyun kim 10 06 sure ever since we launched the one ui, we've been emphasized our users to be able to focus on what matters at each moment so focus is one of the highlighted experience that we want to enhance, as well and when you're a 4 0 on top of it, we also want to deliver the comfort experience as well especially these days, pandemic gives our users screen for t, meaning the screen time is increasing and the number of apps that people are juggling, and for period of time that they are looking at the screen is increasing and then people are having eye fatigue and we actually really need to deliver more comfortable experience for their eyes and for their peace of mind so we took care of all those aspects when we design on ui four so we took out visual lewis's as much as possible, we took out the number of colors, we took out the number of different font sizes, minimize the visual noises, so that user can focus on and consume the important content and third test that they think it matters at the moment very comfortably also, we allow extra diem feature, when user see the screen went dark, we want their eyes to be more comfortable so we collaborate with google make the screen even darker than the darkest level right now and we believe that would be more comfortable with those new features and new design tony morelan 11 56 yeah, no, that's great and i loved hearing about the natural interactions, these intuitive interactions that are being developed into one uio 4 talk about that hyun kim 12 05 recently, people are juggling more number of apps, and they are facing the more number of features and they're consuming more amount of content, meaning we need to provide very simple ui, ui needs to be higher level of intuitiveness so we wanted to put more gesture on the content itself so that user can feel they manipulate and control content itself without looking at ui component so then, non-visual component should help users to feel the reaction when user touch the screen so we put motions, visuals and physical feedback harmonize together, so that when user touch the content and move the content and drag and drop the content, we want them to feel they are moving the real physical object to one place to another tony morelan 13 08 yeah, and those vibrations, those are called haptics, correct haptics, hyun kim 13 11 right? every version of you on ui, we enhance the haptics and this year, the direction of enhancement of haptic feedback is not only just adding a right bit back in the right place, but also, we add the haptic feedback with motion and visuals together to create a feeling of natural interaction in the physical world tony morelan 13 35 yeah, so i know that that that combination of sound animation and haptics will definitely provide for some very, very real-life device interactions talk a bit about privacy, because i know that privacy was mentioned in your session, what are some of the improvements related around privacy? hyun kim 13 53 basically, what we believe is transparency is very important so providing peace of mind, for our customer, about the privacy, the basically transparency is really important the first one is we're showing all the apps list that are using user's personal data so the user can see which apps are using which data and then user can easily access the individual apps permission, turning on and off also, on offered right corner of the device the screen is showing when camera or mic is on then icon is displayed, so that user can clearly recognize okay, camera is on mic is on and if it's not fair, then you can feel safe okay, nobody's listening or watching tony morelan 14 47 yeah, that's, that's great so coming from one ui three, what are some of the biggest improvements that we're now going to see in one ui for hyun kim 14 55 improvement wise as a new experience is self-expression, the more we research customers, the more we're sure that they're expressing themselves in many different ways and have any fun ways and they want to express their emotions and thoughts, and creativities and their identities and themselves, as they are in many different places in our galaxy one ui for we want them to enjoy expressing themselves for instance, we're launching a new tool for them to create a fun emoji pair animation for them to create their own content to express their emotions but sometimes one emoji isn't just enough for them to express their rich emotions people can choose two different images to put together and put animation to bring the combo to life and then there are chosen to emoji can be animated and delivered to their friends and family via messenger and it'll be very fun content, like exploding head yeah, you can create your own content there are many, many fun, any major that we're providing also, there are presets so we believe people will enjoy this in samsung keyboard when they communicate each other and they will express their emotion in a very fun way also, we enhance photo editor a lot so that people can express their thoughts and creativity when they picture and edit it and share every year we've been enhancing photo editor video earlier about this year, we redesigned editors so that user can see this very seamless and easy, simple, intuitive editor ux tony morelan 16 54 and i loved when you spoke about extracting wallpaper colors to be used throughout the ui experience hyun kim 17 00 oh, yeah, that's, that's another very fun feature, except for expression isn't just about what you send out self-expression is about your styles, you can style your phone, you can extract the color from your wallpaper, you also can pick your wallpaper from your gallery so you can choose whatever your favorite pictures from your gallery and put your wallpaper and then we're providing four different color palette that can apply to your one ui and you can choose one of the four options, then your ui color will be changed and color schemes will be different or depending on what you're choosing and this is a little different than other like theming services because when your eyes original usability and identity are still there but the color keeping the readability usability, the only the color is going to be changing yeah and you can still enjoy the benefit of one ui with only the color that you choose from the wallpaper tony morelan 18 12 yeah, in you get that single experience across all platforms, meaning you know all of your devices, whether it's your phone, your tablet, your watch galaxy book, tell me a little bit more about that cross-platform experience, hyun kim 18 24 we have been putting effort, the device eco system experience this year, we launched the wherewith for when you watch and more than ever, we put the best seamless experience between galaxy book galaxy watch, and flip and folder and phone and tablet and we also launched enhanced version of quick share the experience for sending receiving files between devices, click share allows users to send and receive any type of files to your friends who has galaxy and to your devices and receive as well quickly if the devices are around you tony morelan 19 14 yeah, that's great so tell me when will when ui for be available on different devices hyun kim 19 21 we're really excited to be releasing one ui four update before the end of the year tony morelan 19 26 and to upgrade is it as simple as going into your menu settings, your software, update menu settings and just selecting the upgrade? hyun kim 19 35 yeah, you can update it go to settings and software update tony morelan 19 39 excellent so for developers that want to learn more about when ui for what is the best way, hyun kim 19 45 you can go to websites like www dot developer at samsung com/one-ui tony morelan 19 56 what other sessions at sdc would you suggest that developers checkout? hyun kim 19 59 sure, there are many, many exciting helpful sessions but one other person that i want to recommend is one of the highlights session for the title was what's new in foldable and they're talking about multitasking capabilities and flex mode to help developers optimize their own apps and optimizing web pages supporting flex mode by using the web share device posture api tony morelan 20 25 yeah, yeah and there was also there was a tech talk session that i liked, called one ui designing a more intuitive, approachable experience that was by jung woo, you that was another great, great session hyun kim 20 36 yeah, he's actually a member in my group and he has been putting a huge amount of effort to prepare that session and i know the content is very fun and exciting tony morelan 20 48 well, thanks for joining me on the podcast again it was wonderful to chat with you and about the upcoming release of one ui for sure thank hyun kim 20 55 you thanks thanks for having me here tony morelan 20 58 all right next on the podcast is someone very familiar with the show who i've had on the podcast several times now, dan, apple quest from samsung internet dan appelquist 21 06 hi, tony it's great to be back on the podcast tony morelan 21 10 excellent so dan is the director of developer advocacy for samsung internet we did an episode last year and actually did another episode earlier this year so be sure to go check out those to learn a ton about samsung internet, and what dan's team's doing but for those that might not be familiar with samsung internet, can you tell us what is samsung internet? dan appelquist 21 28 sure i'm leading the developer advocacy group of samsung internet, our group is based in in the uk, actually and we're kind of an international team what is samsung internet? samsung internet is samsung's mobile browser for android phones it's also available for any android phone, but it is shipped on samsung phones it's the purple planet you know, if you're if you're familiar with your normal samsung icon, set your one ui concept that's us that's the purple planet we also just launched a version for galaxy watch, which is very cool that's hot off the press news right now so if you've got a one of the latest galaxy watches, you can also download samsung internet for galaxy watch it's based on chromium, the chromium project, which is the same open source project that google chrome is based off of, a lot of other browsers are based on chromium however, samsung is also a major contributor into the chromium project into the chromium open source projects so we're not just taking the chromium browser and slapping our own ui on it that we're actually contributing in to chromium and we do an awful lot to build our own features and technologies into samsung internet so in, in particular, we focus on privacy so we protect your privacy with features like safe browsing, our own in house smart anti tracking technology, and the ability to install third party blockers, ad blockers, tracking blockers, that kind of thing so those are the kinds of things that we're doing to kind of protect people as they use the web and that's an that's such a key important role that browsers have we're also a great platform first progressive web apps if you have attended any of our previous sessions at previous sdcs you'll know that we're big fans of progressive web apps just briefly, a progressive web app is a web application that can be installed onto your device and looks to the user as if it is a native application but it's actually running inside the browser so good example is twitter has a progressive web app pwa many other web sites and web properties have progressive web app versions of their other applications and in fact, we just participated in a separate conference, which just ran recently in collaboration with microsoft and google, and that had a complete focus on pwa s and if you're interested in that, it's all streamable from pwa summit org tony morelan 24 06 awesome so there were some great sessions at sec related to samsung at both when it came to foldables and with extensions, can you tell me what were some of the highlights for you? sure dan appelquist 24 16 so we're really, really excited to be able to speak at sdc this year about our work with foldables so as far as foldables go, the exciting news that we're able to talk about is that we're launching an experimental api called the device posture api it's being developed in the world wide web consortium in the w three c as a proposed web standard with intel and microsoft as partners this api is launched behind a flag right now, tony morelan 24 47 what does that mean dan appelquist 24 48 behind a flag? it means you have to you have to activate it, in order to make it work it's not going to work out of the box and that's because it is experimental the reason it's like that is because we want people to experiment with this api sure, it may change, right and usually when api's are in this kind of place where are in a phase of their development where they might change their launched behind a flag, so that developers get a chance to play with it, play with it feedback into the process and by the way, laura, for my team who gave the talk on device posture api at sdc is also the person participating in the standards committee, the w three c devices and sensors working group and contributing that into that work all of that is happening on github so there's absolutely an opportunity for developers to get engaged and all of that information is in is in laura's talk as well tony morelan 25 45 oh, yeah, that's great yeah, i had laura on the podcast earlier this year that she would she was an excellent guest dan appelquist 25 50 she's, she's great she's really good we've also been working with some partners to get their feedback and to get some early implementations out there so that we can get some experience with this in particular, we're working with youtube and we're working with a company called whereby, which is a video conferencing company based out of norway okay so these are good examples of where you might want to change the ui of your web application when the user folds the device and that's basically the key element here that we're talking about and that's also why when we're talking about this new api, we're talking about it in the context of responsive design yeah, and that was a lot of the focus of laura's talk as well responsive design, meaning that the application itself responds to changes in the screen size in the orientation, that kind of thing so you are responding and being i'm adapting the ui to the to the user's needs tony morelan 26 52 yeah and i love the interactive code lab, the laura had been involved with there dan appelquist 26 58 that's right and, and that, again, can allow you to kind of sink your teeth into this api, and, you know, with code examples, and, and real tutorial about how to get up and running with this so yeah, so again, very excited to be able to do this in the virtual sdc environment tony morelan 27 20 yeah excellent so next, let's talk about the extensions, the session that that was that was given, right tell me about that so dan appelquist 27 27 yeah, my colleague cyclon gave a talk on the current state of our extensions api so we launched a third-party extensions api this year and we opened that up to a wider developer community by the way, we're on one of very few mobile browsers that actually allow third party extensions and we also have within the browser itself, you can go to the extensions menu, and you can find a list of the of the kinds of approved extensions that we have excellent but those are also they're downloadable from the galaxy store but once installed, they become part of the browser, right? so the extensions add new features to the browser right so just to highlight two of the extensions that are currently available for installation, we have the translator extension, which allows you to translate web pages from one language to another that's actually developed in house really, yeah, very, very cool, very cool stuff and we recently launched an extension from the web monetization company coil that is, that's a technology that can make anonymous micro transactions micro payments to websites that you browse from a cryptocurrency wallet and this is, this is a kind of approach that is seen by some people as a replacement for pervasive tracking networks that currently power advertising on the web one way of moving beyond that is to pay websites directly for the time that you spend on them so this is a really interesting idea we've been tracking this for a while and talking to people at coyle, who are also participants in w three, c, and a lot of the other kind of developer activities that were that we're involved in as well so we're very excited to be able to launch this extension it's their extension, but it's launched in the in the samsung browser, and you can install it and then you can start kind of paying websites through coil for the time that you spend on them it only supports websites that that are subscribed to the coil system, right so it's exactly yeah, it's early days on it, but it's something that's very exciting tony morelan 29 34 yeah, yeah interesting concept, sort of like the pay as you go yeah, format dan appelquist 29 38 yeah yeah you know, i don't work for coyle, right but one of the things i think is interesting about it is that those transactions are anonymous so it's very privacy preserving, and it fits together with our philosophy of trying to enhance and protect user privacy tony morelan 29 53 yeah, no, i know privacy is a big thing for you guys over samsung internet yeah, definitely so are there any other sessions at sdc21, that developers should be sure to check out dan appelquist 30 03 well, i would suggest checking out the session called what's new and foldables first of all, which is a kind of highlight session, give it gives a high-level overview and gives a lot of really good context about flex mode, what flex mode is, or what we're referring to as flex mode, which is, again, adapting the user experience of any application to the conditions of the folding device and how that's so important from a user experience standpoint and my colleague dongbu actually gives a brief intro in that session to the device postures api, which leads into laura's longer, more detailed talk got it, and he gives a demo a little demo of how that works as well, which is, which is very cool tony morelan 30 49 yeah, i love learning about all the multitasking capabilities with foldables that was that was great to hear yeah so if developers want to learn more about samsung internet, what is the best way? dan appelquist 31 00 well, you can visit our page on developer samsung com/internet that's got links to our blog, and we blog on medium as well but really, if you go to developer samsung com/internet you can find links there to all the places on the web where, we're present you can also follow us at samsung internet on twitter excellent, where you can always find out what we're doing and you know, we try to keep that up to date with news about samsung internet, but also just the developer activities that we're participating in the standards activities that we're participating in our team manages that twitter handle directly so it's a direct line to our team and our dms are open so if you do have questions about samsung internet, you can feel free to dm us they're tony morelan 31 50 awesome awesome hey, dan, thanks very much for being on the podcast and giving us an insight into the highlights with samsung internet and sdc21 dan appelquist 31 59 thank you, tony it's always a pleasure awesome thanks, tony morelan 32 01 dan there were some great tech talks at sdc related to smart things and lots of great new innovations for shared i'm excited to have aaron swift on the podcast director of customer and partner strategy at smart thanks hey, aaron aaron swift 32 16 hey, tony, how are you doing? tony morelan 32 18 doing just fine, lots of tech talks and even a highlight session for smart things so let's start with the session smart things find from lost to found what were some of the key points with this session aaron swift 32 28 smartthings find launched last year as a service to enable customers to locate galaxy devices such as phones, watches earbuds, your s pen pro, like whatever you might leave on the bus or the train accidentally it comprises more than 100 million find nodes and over 230,000 devices are located every day tony morelan 32 49 so a find no just to clarify, find note is that like another device that's this part of this network, aaron swift 32 55 yeah, like a phone or a tablet, a galaxy phone or a galaxy tablet, running the smartthings app with smartthings fine and as you saw, philip and moon did a great presentation talking about other hardware oems can now integrate their products with smart things fine so we have today our first smart tag device which you could attach to your keys that's available on the market now for everyone but anyone who wants to can start building their own tag devices or integrating their hardware products into the final tony morelan 33 29 yeah, i think that opening up the smartthings five network to the outside hardware oems is going to be huge and will absolutely expand the network tremendously aaron swift 33 39 yeah and they made a set of tools there's this fine device sdk and the test suites they make it really easy for any device manufacturer, whether it's ble, or ultra-wideband, to start integrating their devices if you're using the nordic dialogue or nxp chipset yeah, it's really easy to add the fine sdk into your device for certification tony morelan 34 01 that's going to be that's going to be great there was a session called smart things build and tell me what were some of the highlights for you in that session aaron swift 34 09 that session was led by jenny brand meyer and andy sayer are director of product management and director of engineering okay, and they talked about extending our platform, which historically has been very end user focus, you are buying samsung tvs and appliances for your home and now we're extending the platform for multifamily builders and apartment managers to put in the new apartment buildings okay, there's a new toolset with that, that will allow an installer to go set up hundreds of apartments and hundreds of refrigerators and dishwashers and washing machines and apartments really tony morelan 34 46 quickly so this is giving them the ability to sort of monitor the like what's happening with the with these devices if there's you know, you've got some sort of fault that happens within the system, they can detect that aaron swift 34 58 yeah, so property managers we'll be able to integrate your monitor their fleet of samsung appliances from their property management tool are there any tony morelan 35 08 apis or sdks? related to this? aaron swift 35 12 yeah, so one of the cool things about this new offering is there's a dedicated set of tools and api and sdk set to make it easy for property management software companies, like in trata, to come integrate and provide fleet management for all of the appliances tony morelan 35 28 the one thing that comes to mind, though, when you mentioned something about, you know, giving property managers, the ability to sort of monitor all these devices that are in these homes, comes down to privacy, what's in place related to privacy, when you're talking about something like this aaron swift 35 43 user privacy is front of mind to us, whether you are a home owner or a renter and so what we've done is we put together a new set of permissions on the platform, so that property managers only have the minimum access to data coming off of the appliance is needed to troubleshoot for failures got it if there happens to be something wrong, the property managers will be able to pull some information off of the appliances to troubleshoot the air, but they cannot tell that you're getting your 11pm glass of milk before you go to bed tony morelan 36 18 yeah, the last thing i need is my property manager knowing that i was in my freezer last night going for little ice cream bins aaron swift 36 24 right, right and so we've made sure that users are front of mind in this, that's, that's great, and that their privacy is protected tony morelan 36 31 yeah, that's super important there was also a session called smartthings edge and i thought this was really interesting this is where the execution is done locally without reliance on the cloud tell me more about that session aaron swift 36 44 in summer 2020, we announced major changes coming to our platform, this session ended up being such a long session with so many great speakers, because we are really excited to be talking about those changes sure a couple of my favorite ones are from zack and vlad talking about smart things edge before, when you use smart things to turn on a light with a motion sensor, your motion sensor would detect motion in your home, it would send that motion event to your hub up to the cloud, the cloud would tell you to run that automation, send the event back down to the hub to tell the light ball to turn on sure and that happened quickly but it's not quite as natural as still being able to go turn on the light or the local motion sensor in your home yeah so what smartthings edge does is it took the device events and the automation event and was able to start processing them locally yeah so now when you use that motion sensor to turn on a light motion is detected that goes to the hub, the automation is processed on the hub, and sent back over to the light to turn off without ever having to reach out to the cloud to confirm that event tony morelan 37 56 like what would be a device where you needed like instant, instant, you know, reaction time between the hub and the and the device aaron swift 38 05 so all zigbee and z wave and wi fi devices have the ability to run locally on the hub now with automations okay, so one of the most natural feeling ones is that example i gave with the light you want light to turn on right away? yeah similarly, if you want to be walking into a room and having the temperatures change, or having the vents open and close, the thermostat adjusts those are great use cases for local automations as well okay, what we're doing now is we're investing more features into the rules api to make more automations run locally got it so over time, you'll see more and more complex automations be able to run locally on your hub tony morelan 38 43 for edge devices is it a closed ecosystem? or is it can anyone build for edge? aaron swift 38 49 great question so we've released a collection of edge devices on our smartthings developers github repository that anyone can reference and then any hardware oem can add their fingerprint or their devices to that repository anyone can build their own edge devices if they want to tony morelan 39 10 wow, that's, that's, that's great so i saw there was a highlight session building the future smart home today that talked about the new matter standard can you tell me what was shared in that in that session? aaron swift 39 21 matter is the foundation for smart homes of the future? over 200 companies have come together to develop a standard that is going to be the basis for smart home devices to integrate in the future tony morelan 39 34 would you say that like today the is the ecosystem? is it pretty fragmented? aaron swift 39 39 correct there are all sorts of different smart home standards from all sorts of different companies out there, and each one operates just a little bit different from each other, which makes it hard for device manufacturers to integrate with each platform mater is going to take that fragmentation and create a common application language and data model that will apply across all the data from smartphone platforms, regardless of tony morelan 40 02 yeah, i think that's going to be great, especially for consumers so that they don't have to like decide between which technologies they want to, to purchase that it's all going to kind of seamlessly work together aaron swift 40 12 correct and if you buy a light bulb with the with the matter logo on it, you will know that it'll work with smart things, or any other matters supported ecosystem tony morelan 40 21 that's awesome that is super, super great to hear so you've talked a lot about all these different technologies related to smart things what's the best way for developers to learn even more about smart things? aaron swift 40 34 the best place to go for more information is developer samsung com/smartthings from there you can learn more about building edge devices or cloud devices or stay tuned for future updates on our investment in matter you know all of the sdc sessions on smartthings were great are there any other sessions that you would recommend developers checkout i'm personally a bit of a tv nerd so i'm really excited for redefining the experience of watching tv and what's new in samsung smart tv services tony morelan 41 04 yeah, no, i know, a bunch of the people over the tv plus and it's a great group and doing a lot of amazing things over there a lot of great content coming out that's exciting excellent hey, aaron, i really appreciate you coming on the podcast it was great chatting with you and learning a bit more about smart things and looking forward to chatting with you again in the in the near future aaron swift 41 22 great thanks, tony tony morelan 41 26 so next, i'd like to welcome roger kibbe to the podcast senior developer evangelist for bixby samsung's intelligent assistant technology welcome, roger roger kibbe 41 35 well, thanks you and i talked gosh, was probably over a year ago yeah, actually on the podcast so i'm excited to be back and talk to you about what's new and what we just saw at sdc yeah tony morelan 41 47 so it was i think about a year and a half ago safe to say that a lots happened since then so tell me what is the latest with bixby developers? roger kibbe 41 55 yeah, so we just announced several things that sdc are highlighted some things that changed first thing i want to talk about is some of the ways we've made it easier to develop for bixby and these weren't new announcements, but kind of highlighting some of the changes we've made over the past year or so and so a lot of these are focusing on improving the developer experience, one of the things we did is we created a new training ui so use the training ui to create natural language training and one of the great challenges and voice experiences is to get your natural language training, working well after all, it's the way users interact with all the business logic that you've written so that's a great challenge and so we built a new ui to make that more intuitive and hopefully easier and simpler to build great experiences we also built something we call the component gallery because bixby is on multimodal devices, there is a ui for bixby experience and the component gallery is a wysiwyg component editor so i'm writing some code for what we call bixby views, i can pop up the component gallery, configure something graphically, and it just dumps the code right in so it just makes it easier and then finally, we made it super simple to load a capsule directly from github so we have a bunch of sample code on github and now directly in the studio you can load that sample code from github without having to go and clone it or download it and go through all the previous hassles he had to do so just an example of some of the improvements we made to make it frankly, just easier if your day to day life as a developer developing something for bixby tony morelan 43 32 awesome so let me ask on the end, that component gallery actually was watching one of the sdc sessions on that is pretty cool so just to clarify, this is where like on the device when you give a voice prompt, and the device bixby reacts to that you can then have graphic images appearing on the device is that correct? roger kibbe 43 50 yeah, yeah so you can either when you're basically whenever bixby is communicating with the user, you can actually have a graphical ui on there that's complimentary and it also could have things like buttons on it, or sliders or controls, because one of the things is all these samsung devices so you know, the phone, the watch the television, the tv, all have a ui on there so bixby is not just a voice experience, but it's really a multimodal experience so you need to build graphical ui, we built a tool to make it pretty darn easy to do so tony morelan 44 26 so i heard a bit about bixby on windows tell me tell me about this new announcement roger kibbe 44 30 yeah, so brand new so bixby is available on the galaxy book notebooks so there's the samsung's newest notebooks so bixby is right there is a command key to launch bixby can turn on hi bixby so you can talk to your windows notebook you can ask questions and you can have it control smartthings home automation, you can ask it to find files you can ask them to change windows settings so right now, you know it's focused on a fairly narrow set of things but i'm super excited about we have this brand-new device, a windows laptop, what can you do with a voice front end in front of that? and what are ways where we can make it simpler and easier for a user to use their laptop? by talking to it? to my mind? there's a lot to be discovered there yeah, what we created is kind of step one in a journey toward, you know, making voice a modality that makes it easier for us to interact with our technology, which is what it's all about yeah, exactly tony morelan 45 31 and you had mentioned smart things there was a session at sdc titled enabling intelligent voice control on your iot devices and i know in that they talked about smart things and a lot about bixby tell me, what were some of the key takeaways for you from that session? roger kibbe 45 45 yeah so we introduced something called the bixby home platform, and it's a way of interfacing what you've done a big sweet voice with some of the smart things capabilities and the best way to explain it is for me to give some examples of what you can do and so first example is i might say hi, bixby turn on the dining room lights now if i'd set up dining room lights in smart things, boom, work great today but if i hadn't set up something called dining room lights, today, bixby re prompt you? or say, i can't find dining room lights, that's not a really good user experience sure so what you can set up with the bixby home platform is a lot more smarter logics so hi, bixby turn on the dining room lights, because we can say sorry, i can't find dining room lights, but you have kitchen lights, your bedroom lights, you have den lights? which one would you like to turn on? and so then you kind of the user asked for something that it didn't understand but at a set of airing out? it's like, well, i know you wanted to turn a light on yeah, here's the lights i can turn on and so i kind of prompted the user to, you know, what's the right can you want, much like we would do, frankly, a natural conversation tony morelan 47 00 exactly if roger kibbe 47 01 you ask me something that i didn't understand, i'd probably go can you clarify that? right yeah and so and this is a little bit of adding that kind of logic there so i think that's one great example of just a quote unquote, air becoming a success sure the other thing i want to highlight, and i think this is where it gets really interesting, and frankly, pretty sexy, to me, is where you're actually taking the voice input and you're taking what the iot device, its state and what it's sensing and combining them for some intelligent response okay, so let me let me give you an example so i could say hi bixby, turn on my air purifier, yeah, buy an air purifier, boom, today would turn it on all good but now with the bixby home platform, i can set it up so when i say hi bixby turn on the air purifier, instead of instantly turning on, i can go query the air purifier and say, hey, you know, what's, what's the air quality? okay, and if air quality was moderate, or acceptable, boom, i just turn it on and the default fan speed, maybe medium is on but let's say the air quality is poor well, then when i query it back and says, oh, air quality is poor now i can say, well, you want to turn it on and the air quality is poor i'll turn it on but i'm actually going to turn on and turn the fan to high so you're getting this this feedback loop? it's really, you're getting the user what they asked for, you're getting the state of an iot device you're combining those together? yeah and then the action is just smarter to my mind, this is pretty, i say, sexy and exciting because if you think about this, this is getting into much more intelligence sure the devices know, i know what you asked for, i know the state, i'm going to take the most intelligent action based upon those two inputs and that's what bixby home platform is all about it's really a development tool that lets you build experiences, like what i was just talking about tony morelan 48 59 yeah, i absolutely love that and i loved when he said in the session, that there's they're planning to open this up to partners and also to third party devices yeah, reach is going to be huge roger kibbe 49 10 absolutely well, i mean, i think that's one of the big things with a smartthings ecosystem, right is it's not just for samsung devices, but it's for, you know, devices from dozens or hundreds of manufacturers so if i can read some information on the device, i can get that information and i can do something very logical and just make things work more intelligently isn't that what we all want from our technology? tony morelan 49 32 exactly, yeah so on that note, you know, something i saw also very interesting in that session was the bixby home studio i absolutely love the whole idea of, you know, with your mouse, you can just drag and drop it and build out, you know, these experiences, all without coding yeah, that's on bixby home studio so like that is roger kibbe 49 50 the tooling behind what the experiences that i just talked about, so that you could intuitively built out, i use that air purifier example because actually, if you look at the session, they built out that exact experience and i think except i encourage people to go take a look at that because that is a really good way to kind of understand what i'm talking about, and hopefully get you excited about, huh, wow, there's something cool that i could build as an end user experience tony morelan 50 22 yeah and the demo they gave was pretty in depth i mean, this is not just a you know, they didn't just skim over the, you know, the concept of bixby home studio, they actually went through and built it out yes, it was pretty nice so that was an awesome session but i know there were a bunch of other sessions all kind of related to, you know, smart things in bixby what were some of the other sessions that you would suggest developers to check out? roger kibbe 50 44 yeah, so i would definitely check out the two bixby sessions that we that we mentioned and as you can see, a lot of the focus is on bixby and smart things yeah so if you're a bixby developer, i would suggest you check out some of the spark thing sessions and understand that, because i think a lot of the focus of what we're looking at is, hey, how do we get home controller devices to work super, super well with voice so that and that really is a dance between what bixby is doing and what smartthings is doing, and building that together and that's what the bixby home studio is all about so understand the two sides of the equation and then you'll understand and hopefully can build some really cool tony morelan 51 27 stuff yeah, i love the collaboration that's happening between smartthings and bixby so if developers want to learn more about bixby what's the what's the best way? roger kibbe 51 37 i yeah, so first thing would be go to bixbydevelopers com and that's a homepage for everything bixby that's download the studio, where we have our documentation, and just a bunch of information the other thing is we have a pretty active youtube channel so just look for bixby developers on youtube, youtube slash bixby developers, loads and then pretty much everything we do that's new, or we introduce a new youtube video, we would definitely post that to twitter okay, so that's twitter and that's bixby developers and then i do a weekly like tech tip of the week, like a two-minute video tutorial, and that's posted to twitter as well or also facebook so you can find that on facebook and then finally, i am the host of a podcast yeah, i guess focuses on all things voice not just bixby it is called bixby developers chat you can find it in your favorite podcast player or you should be able to ask your voice assistant hi bixby play bixby developers chat, podcast or another voice assistant and all of them should be able to play it so that is another resource tony morelan 52 45 that's awesome and it's a great podcast i have listened to your to your work you do you do an excellent job from one podcaster to another roger kibbe 52 52 well, thank you that's the kind of compliment you'd like to hear because we all understand the challenges and what you need to do to make a great podcast tony morelan 53 01 guests and let me remind everyone go check out that episode we did it was in the first season with roger, you can learn a bunch more about bixby and how to get started creating voice assisted capsules roger kibbe 53 11 well, thanks, tony really appreciate it and go check out those sdc videos to get a really more in depth understanding of the things we've talked about today tony morelan 53 19 thanks, roger banks one of the biggest announcements we made this past year is our latest watches now run on a new operating system called wear os powered by samsung and joining me on the podcast today is su yong kim, one of the software engineers here at samsung that has worked closely on our new watch ecosystem hey, sam thanks for joining me on the podcast today sooyeon kim 53 38 hi, tony thanks for having me today my name is yan qin and i'm a software engineer at samsung i'm very excited today to briefly recap our sdc sessions on samsung galaxy watch and where it was powered by samsung, which we jointly built with google tony morelan 53 55 yeah so there were several sessions related to the new watch ecosystem in the unified platform what would you say are the benefits of the new wear os powered by samsung? rooyen kim 54 04 so there are many, many benefits but first, we have created a seamless and deeply connected experience across not only samsung galaxy devices, but also for wear smartwatches and android smartphones with this new unified platform, we want to expand our ecosystem bring greater scale to our developer community, and at the same time, delight consumers with a variety of choices from watches to watch faces and apps tony morelan 54 33 yeah, it's true not only this, the developer community going to expand it but also the consumer reach is going to grow even wider can you talk about the growth of the smartwatch market over the past several years? sooyeon kim 54 44 well, the smartwatch market is continuously growing and in fact, according to counterpoint research shipments grew by 35% for the first quarter of 2021 compared to last year and after samsung galaxy watch for launch before august, we once again recognize this explosive growth and will continue to work hard to meet the demands of this growing market tony morelan 55 08 yeah, i agree as smartwatches get smarter than market demand is only going to increase can you tell me what are some of the new and exciting apps available for the new wear os powered by samsung? sooyeon kim 55 19 so users can enjoy familiar samsung apps like samsung pay smartthings and bixby but now google apps are also available like google maps, and youtube music we are also partnering with a wide variety of partners and developers on apps that are available for download from the play store on your watch on your phone there is also a dedicated category for watch apps, so you can easily browse and download them directly to your watch tony morelan 55 46 yeah, i love that youtube music is now available on galaxy watch for many people are buying the watch because they like to track workouts and have an active lifestyle and listening to music has always been a key component to working out can you tell me how is the new samsung galaxy watch for taking advantage of the health and wellness market? sooyeon kim 56 03 so we want to help users keep track of their health status and fitness activities so we brought groundbreaking health features and sophisticated sensors to our new samsung galaxy watch four in selected markets users can check body composition, blood pressure, electrocardiogram skeletal muscle mass based on the tablet grade water, fat percentage, and so on tony morelan 56 26 yeah, it's absolutely amazing that with this little device on your wrist, you can now check things like skeletal muscle mass and fat percentage and can conduct an ekg test can current android developers build watch apps for the new wireless powered by samsung and publish just as they've done before sooyeon kim 56 41 so we aim to make every step of watch app development from ease of bill to market launch as simple as possible with this new unified platform so yes, android developers, you can continue to build your apps within this familiar environment using android studio with watch emulators and existing and new wear os specific api's developers can also deploy and increase exposure for their apps with the watch apps category on the google play store tony morelan 57 11 yeah, so my background is in graphic design and for me, my biggest question was, were we going to build a new tool that would allow designers to create watch faces for the new unified platform? and when they learned the answer was yes, i was really excited so what are some of the new exciting features with the new west powered by samsung watch base design tool, watch face studio, sooyeon kim 57 31 anyone can download, design and publish watch faces for whereas on the play store, you don't have to learn how to code and just need to explore the new design tool watch face studio for more details there is a separate tech talk session on this tony morelan 57 45 yeah, so that session was called introducing the new watch face studio, it was a great overview of the new tool that showed just how easy it is for someone to create a watch face without any coding what are some of the other sessions from sdc21 that watch face developers should check out? sooyeon kim 57 59 oh, first there is the highlight session watch ecosystem or new era where we cover the new samsung galaxy watch ecosystem at a high level then there are tick tock sessions, build your app and the new watch ecosystem is where we specifically talk about watch app development and run through a range of api's by inviting a special guest from google and there is also a session on a new health platform that runs on where was powered by samsung tony morelan 58 27 yeah, there were a lot of great sessions all related to wearables, and lots of new opportunities for developers what is the best way for developers to learn more about the new watch ecosystem? sooyeon kim 58 36 for developers, i encourage visiting the samsung developers and the android developer sites, you can go to developer samsung com/galaxy-watch and also developer android com/where i really appreciate you coming on to the podcast today and giving your insight in to the new watch ecosystem super exciting times thanks tony thanks for inviting me so tony morelan 58 51 i'd like to welcome back to the podcast, eric clung injure, who leads developer relations at samsung eric and i did a pre sdc podcast where we gave a little preview on what to expect it sdc21, and highlights from some of our past developer conferences if you haven't checked out that episode yet, be sure to go back in and give it a listen eric, welcome back to the podcast eric cloninger 59 22 hey, tony, that was a lot of fun you know, we've been doing conferences for years and even though sdc21 was a virtual conference, it was a lot of work and a lot of work by a lot of people at samsung, yourself included and you know, i'd like to really give a shout out to everybody who put in a lot of effort a lot of late nights and all on it so i hope that the people who listened to the keynote and the spotlight session and all the technical sessions got something out of it yeah and hopefully next year, we can do this live yeah, tony morelan 59 54 no, i'm looking forward to that but yes, it was it was a great virtual conference so i've asked eric to join me on this episode to chat about the sdc session that i gave called grow your podcast audience with samsung eric cloninger 1 00 06 earlier this year, samsung made it really easy for device users to listen to podcasts can you share? what is the new podcast platform? tony morelan 1 00 14 yeah, so the new podcast platform, it's super easy to access from your device on the home screen, all you do is swipe left, which is our minus one screen that is samsung free, which is basically free entertainment from samsung all in one place there's four tabs there so there's the watch tab, which is if you wanted to stream tv, there's the read tab, if you want it to read news, there's the play tab, which is playing games and then of course, there is the listen tab, which is all about listening to podcasts eric cloninger 1 00 47 so who can access all of that content with samsung free? yeah, so tony morelan 1 00 50 samsung free is available on all of our latest devices so this is basically the note devices and s series going all the way back to s nine plus all the versions of z fold in z flip right now samsung free is only available in the us but we are expanding to europe soon i've been told that by the end of the year, we will be hitting some european countries eric cloninger 1 01 12 that's great so why did we launch a new podcast service? tony morelan 1 01 15 samsung's podcast strategy is to make it easy for the millions of samsung device users to listen to their favorite podcast shows and discover new episodes quickly and easily and also it gives publishers an impactful way to reach new listeners and really expand their audience eric cloninger 1 01 31 so how do those publishers bring their shows to samsung so grab tony morelan 1 01 34 your url from your podcast rss feed, and you can find that from your podcast hosting provider, take that rss feed in go to samsung podcast com sign up for a free samsung account and all you do is fill out a short form that allows you to import your rss feed url typically, it takes less than five minutes for you to fill out that form and that quickly, your show is now available on all of the samsung free devices eric cloninger 1 02 00 so what samsung free and the podcast platform doing to help publishers get their shows discovered tony morelan 1 02 05 so our editorial team is always looking for new and exciting shows to promote every week, we feature about seven new shows on our homepage and these promotional features have been extremely valuable for publishers in fact, there was one publisher in mind recently, marty ray project chats he saw a 2,000% increase in downloads just after being featured on our homepage so that was really great to see the value in that promotion for him eric cloninger 1 02 29 yeah, that's incredible numbers there so you're the host of our podcast, the samsung developer podcast is that how you got involved with the podcast platform team? tony morelan 1 02 39 exactly they reached out to me when they were first building the service and eventually asked if i would help promote it i said, absolutely that's when they asked me to present an sdc so you can check out my session and learn much more about the new podcast platform eric cloninger 1 02 53 right so the sdc content that is on the website is available for anyone to see at any time so are there any other sessions on the sdc21 website that potential podcasters and developers should check out? tony morelan 1 03 10 yeah, well, i would say what really got me excited was seeing all of the game focus sessions that we had up there so there's one session called galaxy store games focused developer friendly that was a great session on all the new game focused improvements for both gamers and developers and there was another session called games for everyone that samsung instant plays it's another great session for game developers to learn how to bring their html5 games directly to galaxy store, making it easy for users to play games without having to download and install anything eric cloninger 1 03 42 that is an exciting new way for people who are interested in playing casual games to get into something new without having to download hundreds of megabytes of content so i think that's going to be a game changer for all of us yeah, definitely so tony, thank you for giving us some insight on the new podcast platform and also for sitting down with different people associated with sdc21 it was a fantastic virtual conference and it was great to hear about the sessions on one ui, the incubation program smart things in bixby tony morelan 1 04 11 yeah and i also like the interviews that we did on our new watch ecosystem, you know, chatting with dan again on samsung internet that was great and, of course, our new podcast platform i'd like to thank all of my guests today and to you, eric for taking a moment to chat about sdc21 eric cloninger 1 04 27 thank you very much, tony closing 1 04 30 looking to start creating for samsung download the latest tools to code your next app, or get software for designing apps without coding at all sell your apps to the world on the samsung galaxy store check out developer samsung com today and start your journey with samsung tony morelan 1 04 46 the pow! podcast is brought to you by samsung developers and produced us by tony morelan
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docintellectual property infringement checklist this checklist helps sellers submit their applications and registration information for review processing in order to be published in the galaxy store note this checklist is not part of the samsung app distribution guide for galaxy store, which may change independently in this document • ‘seller’ refers to an individual person, company, or corporate entity that can register commercial and non-commercial applications in samsung seller portal • ‘application’ and ‘app’ refer to an application that can be published in the galaxy store • ‘content’ refers to a anything an application presents to app users by any means including, but not limited to, visual and audio means , b anything in an application that is not presented to app users content can include, but is not limited to, names, signatures, persona elements, images, likenesses, symbols, insignia, text, sounds, music, programs, and brand identifiers such as logos, fonts, styles, and 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available sellers are fully responsible for submitting application content and registration information that do not infringe on any ip rights for help, see references before submitting a registered application, you must ensure that • your binary files do not contain content that can result in infringement • your registration does not contain information that can result in infringement not allowed under any circumstances applications with the following content cannot be accepted • content and advertisement specified in the app distribution guide • content that can mislead users in the purpose, features, or value of the application • content that can mislead users that the app or its registering person or entity has a relationship with or endorsement by samsung when there is no relationship or endorsement • the term ‘bitcoin’ when it is not essential to describe the application not allowed without licensing agreements applications with the following content cannot be accepted when seller portal registration does not include licensing agreements from all holders of content ip rights individuals • content protected by the personality rights of any person, whether or not they are a celebrity, who is alive or has died less than 70 years ago such as names, signatures, likenesses, brand identifiers, family crests, coats of arms, and persona elements • products of any person, whether or not they are a celebrity, who is alive or has died less than 70 years ago such as art and literature institutions • public and private institution content that is not in the public domain such as names, logos, and insignias of governmental and nongovernmental organizations and public offices, military organizations, and universities note properly presented national flags are allowed without agreements • coats of arms and other brand identifiers companies • brand identifiers of samsung, watch manufacturers, and other companies note common words, even part of ip right protected phrases such as the word ‘roadster’ in the trademarked phrase ‘tesla roadster’ are allowed without agreements • designs inspired by products made by samsung, watch manufacturers, and other companies note official samsung mobile device and other product images available at samsungmobilepress com and those images overlaid with screenshots of your apps are allowed without agreements sports and media • professional and nonprofessional sports club content such as names, logos, designs, colors • professional and non-professional sports league content such as fifa, world cup, and olympic names, logos, designs, colors • sports player content such as names, signatures, likenesses, and persona elements • movie, television show, game guide, and fan-made content such as names and images • media celebrity content such as names, signatures, likenesses, and persona elements physical products • physical products such as automobiles, motorcycles, cameras, handbags that present company brand identifiers note physical products that do not present brand identifiers are allowed without agreements architecture • privately funded buildings with ip rights such as dubai creek tower, illuminated eiffel tower note content of public or privately funded buildings visible in the background of a public space that do not imply an association with the app are allowed without agreements galaxy store badge tags • galaxy store badge tags that contain brand names, even brand names that are common public words such as band-aid and velcro miscellaneous • references to applications such as app names in the titles and descriptions of other apps • peer-to-peer p2p applications • images from stock image websites or companies • recently filmed works and creations based on those works not allowed without proof applications with the following content cannot be accepted when seller portal registration does not include the specified proof documentation • content that can imply an application or its registering individual or 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docseason 1, episode 11 previous episode | episode index | next episode this is a transcript of one episode of the samsung developers podcast, hosted by and produced by tony morelan a listing of all podcast transcripts can be found here host tony morelan senior developer evangelist, samsung developers instagram - twitter - linkedin guest diego lizarazo senior developer evangelist, samsung developers instagram - twitter - linkedin in this episode of pow, i interview diego lizarazo, senior developer evangelist at samsung diego is a self-proclaimed tech geek and he is all about coding apps both diego and i work together as part of the samsung developer program and i have invited diego to be a future guest host on the podcast where my specialty is design, diego’s specialty is coding, and his tech geek personality shines as we chat about his path to samsung and how he is helping the developer community listen download this episode topics covered journey to samsung developer conferences covid-19 future of gaming game development global developers spanish webinars learning to code hackathons tizen tidbits helpful links getting started developer tizen org freecodecamp org w3schools com codepen io phaser io scirra com unity com sketchfab com coolors co gimp org photoshop alternative - pixel based inkscape org illustrator alternative - vector based transcript note transcripts are provided by an automated service and reviewed by the samsung developers web team inaccuracies from the transcription process do occur, so please refer to the audio if you are in doubt about the transcript tony morelan 00 02 hey, i'm tony morelan with this is pow! podcast of wisdom from the samsung developer program, where we talk about the latest tech news trends and give insight to all of the opportunities available for developers looking to create for samsung on today's show, i interview diego lizarazo just like me, diego is a senior developer evangelist here at samsung and i actually work pretty closely with diego since we're both part of the developer program diego is a self-proclaimed tech geek and he's all about coding and i wanted you to get to know diego a little bit because i've invited him to be a guest host on some of the upcoming podcasts where he can let his inner tech geek personality shine enjoy so i am super excited to have diego lizarazo on the podcast today first let me ask who is diego? diego lizarazo 00 49 mystery man i am a senior developer evangelist with samsung and in general, i'm a developer that likes to create with people who likes to talk blog, so you're going to hear that during the podcast during this episode, that you're going to ask me one thing, and i'm going to want to answer like 20 different things, because that's why i do what i do i really like to talk, i would like to connect with people, and to try to figure out the kinds of things that people really are passionate about i really like to spend a lot of time doing things that are like, and people can like notice, you know, and that's the kind of thing that i like to find in other developers so i started my career as a developer, i still do coding bad in general, what i do right now is to use the technical knowledge, to be able to connect with older developers, and try to find their passion, the kind of things that really take them and the kind of things that they would like to create tony morelan 01 47 so for those of you who don't know, both diego and i are developer evangelists, we actually work together we've been working together now for how long has it been? it's over a year, i would say yeah, diego lizarazo 01 59 over a year now yeah, absolutely tony morelan 02 01 that's great so before you join samsung, were you already an evangelist for another company? diego lizarazo 02 06 yeah, yeah, i actually have been doing developer relations for like seven years now so different companies, the first time that i did, it was with microsoft, and he had the same chance to do something similar way that red hat and also with a company that franken automotive, you're going to be able to find that a ca technologies that one get acquired and now well, i've been doing that with this role with samsung for a little bit over a year, like i said, tony morelan 02 35 so how was it that you actually first learned about this role at samsung? diego lizarazo 02 39 well, at samsung, he, i think i was looking for another opportunity like it, like i said, ca get acquired so i wanted to continue doing things on developer relations and i started looking and well, obviously, whenever you see something like a name of samsung, that's going to pop into a search, you know, so it's such a big company so influential that immediately like, wow, developer relations with samsung so i immediately honing into that and well immediately applied and fortunately for me, it worked out tony morelan 03 14 yeah, no, we were really excited when you joined i will say diego is an absolute character he is so much fun to work with but outside of his very outgoing personality, he is truly a tech guy i mean, i am amazed at the knowledge that you have that you that you brought to the team i do remember during the interview process, you were the one of all the applicants that really blew us all away because you went above and beyond already creating some great code as part of the process that we just said, oh my gosh, we need to we need to have this guy now something unique is that even though diego and i work together in the same team, we are actually on opposite sides of the country so i'm based in the west coast and you are on the east coast so tell us a little bit about why you're there on the east coast where you are and how did you end up there? diego lizarazo 04 06 well, i am in atlanta in atlanta metro so in georgia, i have been here almost seven years so i moved here for my first developer relations position so that was a position that i mentioned with microsoft and they had an opening here and i end up moving before that i was living in, in texas before that i lived in michigan for a couple of months before that i lived in spain and before that, i was living in colombia so it was kind of like a long road to make it all the way here tony morelan 04 42 and your birthplace is colombia, correct? diego lizarazo 04 45 yeah, yeah, i'm colombian and that's where i started my career so that's where i went to school to be developers so i'm going to start working as a web developer so from then they move to spain aid candidates some consulting so that's going working for yeah, like a company better and you really like your client in my case, it was our telecommunication companies so like for anyone that is in europa, they may have heard like telefonica or bts, or british telecommunication and which one orange, orange was the other one and but after that, i started doing something a little cooler that was the making designer so i had the chance to work as a game designer in spain with a spanish company and the funny thing is that i really well, it was like getting to hang out that's when i had kind of like these big realizations, but i could do something else with my background and is that as a game designer, you don't really have to program you don't really have to code but you have the chance to work with developers so i well, i was a developer, so i had to create game documents and talk with the developers but also had to talk with artists with publishers with marketing so i figured out like, i can take that technical knowledge and actually learn how to explain that to people that may be technical may know how to program or that have no idea about those technical issues or problems or aspects of a game so at the time is kind of like, well, i don't know what to do with this cool and but later, like at two positions later, when i move here to the us, it was like oh, do supposition that actually does the entire point, like, program and talk with other people so i'm sure that it really worked out yeah and i think that's one of the best things that you bring to the team is your ability to communicate so not only do you have all this amazing knowledge when it comes to coding, but you do a great job as far as teaching so i am i am super honored to work alongside you so i have to ask you though, too so do you do a lot of gaming yourself? i mean, do you play games now not as much because most of the time, or i'm working, or my kids that have several kids, they are calling jumping on me literally, i'm playing with them so and the other times that i have to opportunity to do something with games, usually i'm creating game demos, you know, like small games and things like that so i don't really have much time i have a few, like, mobile games that i play constantly bad note, like serious gaming, like i used to do, like, the times when i was single back didn't have any worries in the ward and then the xbox was feeling my free time and that that is not happening anymore tony morelan 07 36 so originally, you were a gamer that coded, but now you're a coder that games when from time to 07 43 time 07 45 yeah 07 47 that's correct tony morelan 07 48 that's great tell me you've been with samsung now for a year we've actually done a lot of events together we've actually done some traveling together, which has been great went to korean and both visited our headquarters there we've been to many conferences across the us, i'm sure you've come across a few challenges so tell me similar, like, what are the biggest challenges you faced in your role here at samsung? diego lizarazo 08 09 well sometimes is the entire thing of trying to figure out what's the best thing that you can, the best knowledge that you can bring to a certain audience so samsung has a lot of technologies and fortunately, we have a lot of fans around the word but sometimes, some people are going to be more interested in some technology or another one so i don't think we have anyone in the company that can know everything about every single aspect of samsung well, obviously i have a focus like watches smartwatches phones, gaming, bad sometimes some people can only come in like, hey, do you know about this screen or like, i didn't even know that we had that screen? do you know what is the price of this older device? i didn't know so many times i have to go back and tell them like look, let me check or give me your email and did not respond to you and i'll try to figure it out because seriously, samsung is covering a lot of different technologies yes, samsung electronics, betty vehicle by they brought her company, and we have hundreds of thousands of employees around the world so it's really hard to know every single aspect of samsung other times it has to do a little bit more like with challenges in in conferences, and things like that but fortunately for me for something, i think most of the conferences, most of the events, they have gone really well and it's more like trying to figure out like, what is it that people want to do? what is it that people want to talk about and bring that content to them? tony morelan 09 38 yeah, you know, and i have to agree with you because when i joined samsung as an evangelist, this was the first time that i actually not only was in a role like this, but the first time that i worked for a company prior to that my entire career i was just a self-employed freelance graphic designer and that was my challenge was when somebody when we were out at an event someone would ask me a technical question that i just didn't know the answer i felt like i was supposed to know that answer so it took me a little while to understand that you know what, you don't have to know everything fortunately, we've got great contacts and you know, pretty quickly, i could probably get an answer for you but, yeah, as an evangelist, we're here to help teach, but sometimes we have to go do a little research ourselves diego lizarazo 10 23 yeah to understand, but he's, i think part of the like, the fun thing, the questions you get during the conferences tony morelan 10 31 oh, yeah no, and i love how eager you are, whenever there's a new challenge that's posed to you or someone said, hey, can we you know, can we try this? you're like, give me a little bit here and let me let me figure that out but yes, definitely so that being said, what is the best part of your role? diego lizarazo 10 46 those weird questions, those ones that that you are kind of like, wow, i didn't have any idea that someone is even interested in dad, you know, or the people that come and tell you i have really weird story, and that you are like blown away because like, wow, like the really are doing things that i didn't even know that you could do, you know, so with samsung technologies or other technologies, and i have had some people, some developers that come to me and show me like a small demo and then i even like wonder, like, how did they do it? you know, like, if i was going to kind of like, start doing that by myself right now, i have no idea how to do it, or like, it's going to take me some time and then that kind of like forces you to say like, hey, what kind of thing do i need to learn next? and specifically with samsung, i think we really get a lot of innovation we get new devices every year or sometimes even like, two three times a year and then you are never short in terms of like, what is it that i need to do next, there's always something that you can do some sort of like project but it could be like a personal project, where we could be whatever, but, but you are always going to like you have something it's not static even before we started, like working under covid circumstances, i think almost every month we were trying to figure out like, okay, what is the next event? what is the next conference? what is the next thing that we're going to do? and now it's like, okay, how do we do the same things without even like, really reaching in person, you know, like older developers into different communities so it's always challenging and i think challenge is one of those words that is quite interesting because a lot of people see it as something then i usually see it as something good if there's a challenge that means that that i have something new to do something new to learn and, and data that i really like about my job and about this position you know, tony morelan 12 54 it was just this morning that i was reading one of the comments on a tutorial video i had posted on youtube the person asked like, you know, so how do you do this it was he wanted to show the rotating progress bar on a watch and i had i had known how to do it i just hadn't put that out to the community yet and i thought, you know what, this is a perfect time for me to do that so i quickly just threw up, put together another video tutorial, posted it to youtube, basically just answering this question but you know, here, it was a great opportunity for someone in the community to reach out to us and ask a question and, and, you know, i'm able to respond right away with another tutorial video so, yeah, that interaction with the community is great and also one of my highlights you had mentioned a little bit about covid and how it's affecting, you know, the world, our group so give me some specifics how is that actually impacting your role and your challenges as an evangelist to reach developers? diego lizarazo 13 53 well, one of the things that i guess we, i would say did work and unfortunate is that i did you know, this year, we were thinking about doing more events live so we were what are you putting our calendar, and we're going to take it easy we were going to, to figure out when to start doing that so really the big change is that we have to accelerate that response we have to move to create content online faster than we were expecting but we were already in the process so that's something that i think we're fortunate that we didn't have to come up with something out of nowhere, if we were already in that process but apart from that is sort of weird, not traveling as much as what we were doing not having the chance of like going to the booth is something smooth and getting all these people sometimes like the randomness of conference when people just only walk by you and you're like, hey, you have like a couple of minutes to talk about something that you can already do online but then you have older kinds of randomness like the ones that we get on our youtube channels or to forums or, or other or things like that so that i think is like one of the biggest things the other thing is that i think right now it would one after so many months is beginning to get a little bit of like online like a little bit like tired a little bit jaded is like i don't want to do another videoconference i don't want to do another, like video call, because everyone is doing that you know, so you have to, like figure out like, okay, what kind of like new content is going to keep people entertained? how do we change the format and things like that, i think is a big challenge for anyone living in these times but at the end of the day, it's part of the challenge and the challenge i am looking forward to the time that we can start like doing again, conferences are going to be a little bit of refreshing and i think a lot of the ideas that we had four this year that we're going to jump to start executing on that bad but yeah, you it's his day to day thing and personally, i have felt always going to change like everyone else but i've been working remotely for over seven years so it was not like a huge process of a patient i think it was more for you, for example exactly yeah tony morelan 16 16 so our team, our team is based in the bay area in northern california diego works remotely in atlanta so yeah, i can totally understand that you kind of already had your set up for us, it was a little bit more of a shock because we no longer went into the office, you know, we all kind of had to put together our home offices i was fortunate because i had done it for, you know, close to 20 years so i still had my nice little setup here at home so it's worked out well i would agree with you that the, you know, one of the biggest impacts has been that face to face opportunity to meet with designers and developers at conferences that that's, you know, we're missing out on that you are correct when the new year began big push was, hey, how can we broaden our reach? how can we make our teachings or information accessible globally? so we were already, you know, five steps ahead towards that type of content delivery yeah, like you said, we just had to put it in gear and move a little faster once this all hit yeah you know, when i think of diego, i think of a tech guy like i said, i'm totally impressed with how much knowledge you have, you know, up in your head, where did that start as a child? i mean, were you always like, motivated by technology when you were a little kid? diego lizarazo 17 37 i like technology itself i think it was a little bit of like knowledge i think my entire life i've been quite geeky so there are some people that dad account like find the term offensive like no, i've always kind of like known that i'm geeky and i embraced it so it's like i really have perhaps they have a little bit of ocd and he's like, okay, if i if i get to know something i just really love to learn about it so that helped and, and really, the thing is that for me, most of the programming especially, it comes as a problem you know, it's like you have a problem in some almost like puzzle and then the coding is really the process of solving the puzzle so it gives me a lot of, like, almost personal pleasure, you know, to see like, okay, i want to do x, and i have no idea how to do it, and then start putting it together and solving it the big difference has been an evangelist is that many developers stop there, you know, then you solve the problem, and then perhaps move to the next problem as an evangelist, you're supposed to kind of like take that knowledge and somehow figure out to share it with someone else so it could be a blog post, it could be a podcast, like what we're doing right now, which could be a media bad, but then you have to do that part of sharing what you learn in in that is also kind of like an additional layer of like what i do, and apart from that, like you mentioned about like being a gamer or being a programmer it really, the funny thing is that i actually started learning how to program because i wanted to create games so that was sort of my main motivation back in in colombia, i didn't really have any degree appealable to me, at least on game programming game designing and so i say like, okay, i'm going to the closest thing that he's learned how to program and i started the career there and then the gaming part coming like he pretty much later, but it was kind of like a really roundabout way to get around things better well, it's kind of like the path you sometimes you don't even like have a lot of control on how you end up getting to the place that you want to be in tony morelan 19 44 that's, that's great so let me ask you them what is the perfect game for you? are you into action games role playing games, puzzles, sports? i mean, what is that perfect game for you role playing games, diego lizarazo 19 56 you're playing games, like i mean, i enjoy all kinds i really suck at action games so all shooters i think my brain has kind of like a disconnect on 3d on a screen so i tried to shoot in one direction and i'm kind of like getting killed and the other day i cannot really coordinate that but role playing games it has always been countered me thing because they usually tend to have a story something engaging and at the same time you have the interactive part so to me it feels almost really interactive book and then having like to develop that story and trying to figure out like all like how all the characters interacting and making this story a little bit my own story that's like one of the things that i really like, obviously, like i said, i don't have the time sometimes to kind of go into these deep stories so right now i'm not doing a lot but if you asked me like what are like my, my favorite games, pretty much all of them are role playing games so like, final fantasy six, fable and wonderful latest ones that i didn't play the original one, it was my kid that ended up picking it for switch, sell the breath of the wild and that thing totally blew me away i still haven't finished it because it takes so many hours and they cannot just do like the main, the main path through the game, i have to do all the side quests and that takes forever so if they go into one of these online sites and tells you like, hey, this game is going to be 100 hours if it's sort of a role-playing game for me, that's going to be $300 so i can't know just sue did the main quest so yeah, like i think we're playing games is really the thing that is close to my heart and competitive well, they're complicated to create and there are some that are much more engaging than others but tony morelan 21 49 yeah, that's funny you know, i can tell you, this is what we're the opposite i am not into role playing games i need games simple so i am into racing games so, you know, speed is pretty much it or like, you know, just the simple arcade style games, the, you know, the old retro games, two dots, you know, just using really simple puzzles yeah, that's about as deep as i get when it comes to comes to gaming diego lizarazo 22 18 well, but believe it or not, like when i actually create games, those arcade games are the ones that i really go for because usually, it's about a mechanic, they can have like one or two mechanics that are incredibly polished, and they're repetitive, bad, bad day, and it really gives you the, the satisfaction as a player to accomplish something so like a platformer, or like the typical thing of like, space invaders that you just really get into sown and your brain is not really like thinking much is just kind of reacting those are also great, you know, and especially the old style of the old school games oh man, i don't know how many hours i spent going out like playing dos, an actual arcade but even at home in an arcade? tony morelan 23 05 yes, much of my childhood was spent out it was called merlin's castle, down in saratoga in california that was the place to be every night, we would go down there and drop our quarters in, play asteroids don't kill the plays close up so i'm going to actually date myself here for a moment when i was growing up, one of my friends, his father worked on the very first game, which was pong, very well known that this is the very first you know, computer generated game he actually brought it home before it was publicly released he's like, he got to come over here i've got this game that you hook up to our television so i actually got to play pong before it was out into the public and let launched obviously this amazing genre of games diego lizarazo 23 58 i would have i would have left in the house of your friend, if, like i would have tried to break him somehow and well, everyone is just leaping, tried to just play into their living room or whatever they have the game so yeah, that that that is a little bit of an addiction that i had growing up but it was kind of like the cool thing it was not the thing that i it was like, let's escape and let's do this really cool thing for a few hours and then let's go back to the ad well, in my case, the ad is reality that it was around me and then well, let's go and check the next game, you know so it was it was really cool and somehow, i think those simpler games in many ways were kind of like, more fun that some of the orders i think people didn't take it didn't take them as seriously, they were just to steal games the it was not kind of like the entire thing like my life revolves only around this game it was like, well, they're incredibly cool, but i know how to count like braid the two so i think the perhaps like the entire thing that you begin to listen that it like simpler times, so perhaps they were in immediate games, at least they were simpler and i think their interaction that he had with the players were simpler to him so i recall, you know, tony morelan 25 16 yeah, definitely so if we could then jump into the future, how do you think or how would you like to see games evolve? diego lizarazo 25 25 now you do see the trend already of the esports so they are going to turn more into kind of like a well i sport so like, global entertainment so just watching the game is going to be part of entertainment, which i don't particularly like because i think one of the coolest things about games is playing the games you know, but well, i've also enjoyed watching some people like it really cool ones really good ones, but they do doing dad but i think you're going to count like how it's kind of weird to say it on one end stream like more complex, more technically advanced games and then on the other hand, you're going to have the hyper casual when you when we start getting like even more and more mainstream technologies like ar and vr, then you're going to start having like more of those games that are going to get to the general public, not just like gamers, but kind of like everyone else, and then more gamified experiences so then you're going to have things that i don't know, you could go to the store, and they directly own the stands, you're going to be able to have like minigames you know, because there's going to be so simple that you could pretty much put a game on anything clicking the wrapping of candy or something like that it's going to be possible and then some of these interactions, at some point is going to be similar to what happened to the two technology in general they're just going to be in so many places that's some point you're not even going to realize that you're just playing a they're going to be just so immersive and so, so commonplace that you're just going to be playing without realizing that you're playing or you're going to be working with some gamified aspects and i think all that obviously has some good aspects to that and some aspects that we should reconsider our society but well, that's not really up to me to decide what's right and what's wrong i think the those who are going to be kind of the main things that we're going to see more and more tony morelan 27 34 yeah, no, i definitely agree you know, my son's a gamer and when he's not gaming, i'm like, okay, cool he's off, you know, the game and he's just chilling out and then i'm like, so what are you doing? he's like, oh, i'm just watching videos of other people gaming that's when i realized that like, oh my gosh, so there's this whole you know, social community around gaming that is more than just individuals playing the game i mean, there's just so much to the community so, yeah, that was that was interesting so let's talk a little bit about building apps you know, i want to know what your approaches when you want to develop an app do you first like outline what the concept is? or do you just start like playing with a code and kind of build out from there? what's your approach to that? diego lizarazo 28 19 usually, for me, it has been, at least have a problem or have a, like, at least the concept, you know, that i build the app around so it could be i'm trying to solve something, or somehow, i was able to, for example, with games that happens a lot that i already have a game mechanic that i really like and he said, like, where is it going to, to fit? so usually, i don't just come and start playing, i usually start playing with the with the code when i already have like a skeleton like a base that is the year and then it's like, okay, let's figure out like all the other aspects, the ones that may not be as important how, how can i do that? obviously, to solve that initial core concept, or that initial problem solving it, you end up calling like trying different approaches but additionally, and that's something that i do in many other many other things, i like to at least have an outline, you know, like a, grab a piece of paper, and say like, i want to do abc, and c, and then try to figure out how to do that and then that mabel, or dan may stay in into those original ideas bad but usually, i like it i prefer it, when there's something that guides me like, in goal, even if i if he didn't stop changing, but at least have a general idea where i'm going tony morelan 29 42 so tell me about some tools or tips that you may have, that you can recommend for someone creating their first game app diego lizarazo 29 49 well for game, so i have a couple of things that that i can share so for games in general, i think one of the things that will people don't realize is that games can be sometimes hard to program so i have like two tools for a person that has no idea how to create games that i recommend and the first one is construct three, i think that we can put the link in the notes so the company is called sarah and you can create games like javascript games that are going to run on your browser and you don't really need to do a lot of programming so it gives you a good idea of how to start creating games without doing a lot of the understanding what of what goes behind so that's really good if you already have a little bit of experience programming or want to learn how to program a also would recommend something like phaser, but it's also a javascript game, but you do have to write the code so it gives you the idea if you're going to teach a kid perhaps then you can find things like a scratch so those are a little bit more visual programming languages and it helps you to understand, like a lot of the logic on how like, yeah, well eaves, wiles loops, things that you still need in programs and you know, in apps in general, and specifically for games if you're currently trying to create a new app i have, well, the game is a good way to do it but there are like several code several like places that you can learn how to do some programming i think javascript is really great not just because of the language itself bad is because you can find it almost anywhere whenever you visit a website usually it has a little bit of javascript so i know that a lot of people are going to complain and say like new it's better to start with python or is better to start with other programming languages but i think for someone that is starting to learn how to program is really easy to create a piece of code with notepad and then it means run it using a browser so you don't need a lot of tools and you can see results right away and it's so extended a they can find so many resources, look at no free code camp org or w three schools, that they give you a lot of tutorials on how to start creating and those are counting gen now, if you're a little bit more experienced, and perhaps you know how to code and you want to create, let's say, your first like big game, unity is a great way to go about it it could be a little bit hard at the beginning, because it has so many options it has so many buttons, the ui is really complicated so if you open it for the first time, and you don't know what you're doing, just go to youtube, or go to one of the unity pages, because you're going to be overwhelmed so that's why i'm saying like, i think it's a great tool it's just that if it's your first game, you may be a little bit like whoa, whoa so that would be a good thing and if you're going to start creating apps in general well, i would recommend to start creating something with android so it could be android studio or even with tyson or for samsung, it could be like a, you could go to tyson org or the developer something com page and you are going to also have the chance to start creating mobile applications or applications for smartwatches and well even look like if you just want to see something with a smartwatch it's a no that follow tony, because he's going to give you a lot of places where you can go and well, i think i'm going to share with tony like a lot of older things that data developers are counting tips and things that you can use so places like if you are like most developers a little bit design challenged there you could find like cool images like pixels or game art that is open game art or if you want to just kind of like find like colors, the right colors for you ui you could go to places like wireless coolers not colors but cool or schoolers casio and immediately gives you like a palette that you can use in your in your application so you break now there are fortunately, a lot of resources that you can find online and well, quickly we can put some of the links in tony morelan 34 18 yeah, definitely yeah so as you'd mentioned, we'll include everything in the show notes you're giving a lot of great information, a lot of great resources so we will link to all of that down in the show notes so thank you thank you a bunch for that so one thing that's been wonderful, you joining the team is see speak spanish so you've been able to reach out to the spanish speaking community, you've had some very successful live chats and webinars that you conduct all in spanish so and our reach is global so as you know, you know, when we're doing or live chats or videos and whatnot, they are reaching countries all around the world so i want to ask you, how do you think the developer communities differ? around the world, diego lizarazo 35 02 i think it's a little bit of a level of, of engagement, you know, like it in the us in particular, a lot of the technical content is already created an english, you know, so sometimes is really easy for a developer or anyone that wants to be a developer, just go online and search for whatever and you immediately are going to find a response no, like it's right there in other places, especially places that have where english meaning have become like a yeah, kind of like as extended, then then it could be a little bit more of like people that really want to get the answers though sort of ones that somehow or have to learn english or try to kind of like understand more of the content that there is there but also, sometimes even they are the ones that try to translate, you know, they figure out like, hey, i have this i found this awesome video and no one has that in spanish or a translation in english and then be recruited that same content so i think it's a matter of kind of, like availability of tools and resources and sometimes you see a little bit more of those dynamics in in user groups, you know, so a lot of people kind of like, some are more motivated by that and notice, on the other hand, feel a little bit shyer you know, it's kind of like, well, i know that i'm not going to get older with all the responses that i needed so you have to kind of like work around that whenever you're coming, like reaching older countries in and people from other languages, but yeah, it's really interesting and also, you see that sometimes certain technologies are more popular in certain countries and sometimes you don't even understand why he knows like, why that that programming language is so popular in brazil i don't know that it is more popular in brazil, you know, or websites and things like that, because well, they'll be communities evolved differently tony morelan 37 01 sure, you know so my specialty is design so i help a lot of developers from the design aspect for their apps and i'm always amazed at how many russian watch face designers there are so when i've been communicating with them, you know, exchanging emails, or responding to different posts and whatnot, you know, i'm conducting all this in english, and we're having these great conversations well, i reached out to a couple of them the other day to invite them onto a phone call, and came to find out that they don't speak english they've just been using google translate in their comments exactly it just hit me and i'm like, so for all these months that we've been carrying these conversations, this is all just been russian translated using google translate though exactly pretty neat to see the board is really, you know, taken down diego lizarazo 37 50 yeah, and exactly so sometimes, certain content like videos i personally prefer videos, but then in order to places they may prefer the text, you know, or code, because it's something that you can easily copy paste somewhere else and get a translation so in a video, you may not get the accent, or you your understanding of the language is not as great so then you still can have like a barrier there but it well, people, if they really want to do it, if they really want to, like get to the content, they figure it out it's just like the how, like how the solve that problem could add like a couple of steps there in the process tony morelan 38 32 so we've talked a lot about conferences, you know, we used to do a lot of outreach in person so can you tell me about some of the experiences you've had at these conferences? have you had great experiences? have you had any challenging experiences? tell me about maybe unique people that you might have met at some of these conferences? diego lizarazo 38 52 yeah so i'll tell you one, like that it was challenging that was not what samsung but i was going to man booth in a conference for another company and we had a product and a like, this is called like the entire thing about demos, whenever you have some product, if you don't pay attention, or if you don't cross your fingers long enough at sometimes a demo is going to fail and they told me like, okay with the confidence, let's say start tuesday, 9am and i came there early, set up everything, everything's ready to go and they put my computer there to show the product everything's working, and it suddenly stopped working so i had like half an hour before people who started coming to the floor, and they had to show things and i literally had to call like go outside of the of the conference floor, and start pretty much figured out what was the error and at some point, it was called, like calling someone from the team and trying to figure out it was of course the most stupid thing like a package got updated last minute automatically and then bad one had a company with something else, and then you just can't change one file and magically everything is working but it is incredibly stressful to try to solve something like right before you have to show it and i have had some things like that, even in webinars and things are dead and you're like, what do i do now? and you have to figure out like the solution right in but that one was, like really stressful for me a really cool one on the other hand, for example, in adobe max, which you were last year, so like a good portion of our team was there last year, i had the chance to talk with a really cool developer so his name is derek miller and he went back and talk with us and what really blew me away for ones is that well, he's a teacher i have his video that's something we did we never really just share outside of our team, because we wanted to really give it the promotion that we wanted, but it was a little bit hard sometimes to promote some of these things but the thing is that he had a real-life problem sometimes we're talking about apps and, and games and, and really well if a game does work or doesn't work usually doesn't change anyone's life but in his case, he was dealing with diabetes and he wanted to be to have well pretty much a regular life in and figure out how to do it use technology because he knows how to use technology he lived he teaches a lot of like, maker things who are things with raspberry pi's and things like that and pretty much he designed and implemented a full system to be able to check his level, his blood level, you know, like glucose and everything in in to be coming in that regular stable state, regardless if he was on the road or if he was changing his diet, etc , etc so he kind of like told us all about that and he was using something technologies and i was blown away again because at the time it's one of those things since i don't have dad disease, i don't have that problem, that health problem i never thought about that, like how to solve it and then he was already explaining, like, hey, i did this and i can't create the keys for him for my sensor and this is how it connected my phone and i was asking, like, how long do you meditate? he was like, oh, well, like one or two days and was like, really, it would take me forever for me to do that, you know, and it is because obviously, he had a personal need and he had a personal problem, a real-life problem and he really wanted to put his knowledge into something that that could be used by him or by anyone else and he figured it out without even having can like a commercial solution for that and he was still able to figure it out so that was one of the times that i felt good at that i get kind of like a personal satisfaction to see someone using their knowledge to solve a real problem and it was amazing and he was, again randomly we were in a design conference that is adobe max last year it wasn't even about guest programming, he was more towards like the design part and he just came to our booth, you know, to be able to talk with us and show us the kind of things that he was doing so, so that wouldn't really blow me away tony morelan 43 16 that's, that's great you know, i think that for me, i've had a few of those experiences where i've met some really unique people from the design community since that's been my primary focus, whether it's meeting individuals that are just happen to be coming by our booth, or meeting some of the other people who are at the conference to present i've met some of what i call like my rock star designers in the community out there andrew kramer, who's done a lot of work with motion graphics he worked a lot on star wars i follow him he was the one who truthfully his tutorial videos are what inspired me to get into motion graphics many years ago and here i was at a conference right next to him and next thing you know, we're starting to open a conversation and we must have chatted for about 30 minutes, just the two of us chatting away and i just still couldn't believe it that i was, you know, next to him, mr doodle who's an amazing artist, he was at adobe max so just being able to see these people in person was just so rewarding i can't wait for us to get back out into conferences to get back into that environment diego lizarazo 44 28 yeah, absolutely and, and, and we think that's one of the cool things that are, you asked me before about this kind of rolls, sometimes we end up talking with some people that eat or know, that have such an amazing experience so personally, for me, like and well, you can share this one i have always kind of like beanie to, like you say to the role-playing games that are also games are not just like the video games, you know, like, also tabletop games and there is this one that that is numbered masquerade so it's called dungeons and dragons but couldn't like darker green here because it was the 90s and i was a real fan and i came here to georgia i had the bugs i played that and they didn't know that that game actually started here in atlanta and at some point, someone told me like, hey, you should come and talk with andrew sure and his name is andrew greenberg and right now he's the president of the georgia game developer association so he helps like videogame developers, but also tabletop game developers, and a lot of people in the gaming industry and entertainment industry and he started talking with him and then later, i found out that he was one of the original developers, not the creator, but one of the original developers of this game so it's one game that have been kind of like fanning out for i don't know how many years since i was a teenager and then i was able to, like meet someone that literally was in the offices creating the content that i was reading and all that and you don't know in these conferences or like when you go to use groups who you're going to be able to find me, it could be like someone that already has a lot of expense or it could be someone that 15 years from now could be the next you know, maybe the next genius, game creator or app creator, and you don't know, you don't know and that's why i really love to talk with people, because that's when you make these connections tony morelan 46 21 yeah, no, definitely which then leads me to hackathons in game jam so we've talked a lot about conferences and some of our outreach let's get specific and talk about hackathons what's your involvement around that? diego lizarazo 46 34 yeah, so well, a hackathon is pretty much usually they have this format of let's get doing a weekend or let's get for a few days and let's put together like an application or a system, or do some coding to create something cool sometimes the hackathon could have like a theme so let's create something around a specific technology or like any api, or let's create something to solve this problem, or it could be something more specific, which it would be like a game jam, where it would be a game jeremy's car, like, let's get together and instead of having a music jam, where we're creating cool things that sound cool, it would be let's create some games that look cool and play cool so sometimes they end up creating like a small game sort of times they are a little bit more polished, but usually that everything is created in that span of 4872 hours sometimes there's orders a little bit longer, like half a week or something but there's always this entire element of pressure of let's be creative, like pretty much on the moment and let's meet people that we haven't met before so sometimes some teams can like form right there on the spot, and have been able to kind of like it participate in many of those some are a little bit more professional, more enterprise sort of thing, or is mean in universities or game associations for example, usually around the end of january they have the global game jam so i had the chance to go there and sometimes a sponsor and sometimes, like talk with people i always go like in depth like not participating myself creating that i always click start creating like a concept that i'm going to end up doing and i end up doing something else so it doesn't work out but he's really great to go and see the results of the apps that people created hackathons or the games and the people are game jams and it's something that brings a lot of energy from young people creating cool things together tony morelan 48 28 yeah and i think that probably what i enjoyed the most around that is, everybody there is they're all there for like the same reason you know what i mean? it's to be creative i one time participate in a 48-hour film project so this is where different teams break up and you have 48 hours to put together a film and you know, so you're writing your script, you're filming it here, you're editing it, you're doing everything all within 48 hours, and just being around you know, like minded people so i can totally understand that when you're at a game jam or at a hackathon, just being around the energy of all those people i mean, that's got to be pretty, pretty exciting diego lizarazo 49 11 yeah, yeah and sometimes people come up with, like some things that you were like, how did you even come up with that idea? you know, and it's really cool so and last year with something we had one in washington dc, that one was created in conjunction with mit, and it was around health and coming up with liquid use to help people in the health industry and the health sector to well help people that will have actual diseases or health problems, etc , etc and we were able to talk with some teams that were coming up with so many incredible solutions so one of them and one team was kind of like chicken india, the smartwatches, the samsung smartwatches and have to do with elderly care so like, trying to check things around the gap, how it could take someone falling, you know, someone that is older and could be falling and maybe the gyroscope he did watch could help with that detection, or how they could collect information like i don't know, like the heartbeats or their sleep patterns, things like that so they were calling and saying like, we already have this awesome house record, how do we do? how do we use that to help others? and i thought that it was incredibly interesting, and usually don't do anything that has to do with health so that particular hackathon was kind of like, oh, that's, that's different than that yeah, that's the entire point, to bring some creativity and bring, like, two different things that sometimes don't go along and put them to work together tony morelan 50 51 yeah, no, that's, that's so true i once went to a meetup group, where people were presenting their apps and somebody had created app for the elderly, the chance of them falling down and this person who had worked their way through this app, not realizing that when people fall, they don't fall like a tree falling in the forest, they crumble so this app developer hadn't really thought of that, that the motion is not, you know, a tree falling it's just someone kind of collapsing down and that was because of the, you know, the people that attended that meetup group that then helped this app developer, you know, understand kind of, you know, a basic thing that it was just an oversight diego lizarazo 51 35 yeah, but i don't think you'd seen a bit of an oversight is that sometimes that happens a lot with developers, and you can see it with a lot of technologies that didn't have to be adopted and it has to be that way sometimes, developers end up solving problems that don't really exist, what are the problems, something different? tony morelan 51 53 so you've done a great job on reaching out to the community and sharing your knowledge and no one of yours a very popular series is the tyson tidbits yet you've been publishing on youtube can you tell us are there any other upcoming topics that that you have planned? diego lizarazo 52 10 yeah, actually, i it's kind of fun like how these things work and coming back a little bit more to towards the gaming side of things so i'm going to be putting a little bit more like short videos on showing how to create games with samsung technologies and in general, i'll try to put like different technology so right now we have so many technologies that you can use so many platforms like apple face or construct two dimensions before and unity and so it would be cool to solve the specific things that have to do with games and did help to publish them because i think, i think sometimes when you are creating a game or an app, if you are not forced to share with others, then it can stall otherwise, if you know that you want to publish it in the app, regardless if it's successful or not you still have kind of liquidity that a goal to achieve that is shared, like that game so, so that's where quite likely i'm going to start creating and you actually have to finish a video in the next couple of days around that so we'll see how that goes so i already have like a few that i need to record well, i have to start one by one so we'll see how long it takes me to create him and publish them tony morelan 53 24 so if developers want to get in contact with you, what is the best way? diego lizarazo 53 29 well, they can go directly if it's especially something technical, it's great to send me an email and you can use my samsung email so you're going to see it on the notes that's diegorivera@partner samsung com so like we'd like it's better that you check the notes so you can send me an email there and specifically we are talking about an error it's great that you send me like a screenshot sometimes people describe their and like, well, it's given me a lot of information, screenshots sometimes works best if not the still can find me online so the best thing that usually i go by helo777 so that would be like the translation of ice in spanish so that's h e l o 777 and you can find me like that on twitter, in our instagram, etc , etc so twitter, i receive a lot of messages so i can respond directly there leave dog, like i say to my email, that's a good way to get in contact with me tony morelan 54 28 when you're not coding when you're not working, what do you do for fun? diego lizarazo 54 32 spending time with my family, have a big family so literally get some popcorn, get in front of the tv and watch an animated movie i have still like little kids so we were still not at the age where we can all just watch like people on the screen they still have to be cartoons at some point we will graduate to real people and live action bad in the meantime is dad or going on some road trips so i'm kind of fortunate did an around the area, we have many other smaller cities and towns that we can visit and every other month we are currently going somewhere so that with my family that's its own adventure just like taking them one hour down the road that that's still interesting tony morelan 55 15 excellent well, hey diego, absolutely appreciate you taking the time to join me on the podcast this has been a ton of fun i am glad to even get to know you better than i knew you before so thank you again oh, thank you, tony outro 55 25 looking to start creating for samsung, download the latest tools to code your next app, or get software for designing apps without coding it all sell your apps to the world on the samsung galaxy store check out developer samsung com today and start your journey with samsung the pow! podcast is brought to you by the samsung developer program and produced by tony morelan
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docseason 1, episode 6 previous episode | episode index | next episode this is a transcript of one episode of the samsung developers podcast, hosted by and produced by tony morelan a listing of all podcast transcripts can be found here host tony morelan senior developer evangelist, samsung developers instagram - twitter - linkedin guest ash nazir iot gadgets in this episode of pow, i interview ash nazir, editor in chief for the website iot gadgets ash was an early advocate for tizen os, building a huge following, tizen experts with that success, ash and his team launched the website blog iot gadgets as a way to expand their coverage of hardware, software and all things internet in addition to iot gadgets, ash also runs the largest facebook group dedicated to samsung galaxy watch with over 75 thousand members listen download this episode topics covered tizen os maemo meego linux foundation tizen experts writing for iot gadgets facebook group, samsung galaxy watch more about iot gadgets based in manchester, england, iot gadgets is dedicated to bringing you the best internet of things iot news directly to you we are living in exciting times and are proud to be part of this new technology transcript note transcripts are provided by an automated service and reviewed by the samsung developers web team inaccuracies from the transcription process do occur, so please refer to the audio if you are in doubt about the transcript tony morelan 00 02 hey, i'm tony morelan and this is pow! podcasts of wisdom from the samsung developer program, where we talk about the latest tech new trends and give insight into all the opportunities available for developers looking to create for samsung on today's show, i interview ash nazir, editor in chief for the website iot gadgets what started out as a small blog related to the tizen operating system ash and his team have built a super successful news and information focused website featuring articles on the latest software hardware and all things internet including a facebook group dedicated to samsung smartwatches that has over 75,000 members enjoy so tell me who is ash nazir? ashiq nazir 00 46 so that that's quite a deep question, but i'm going to keep it quite light and you know, you know, not too philosophical as fashion is as i'm basically a network engineer that's my background, and i'm from manchester in england as you can probably tell from the tony morelan 01 01 accent okay, now have you lived in manchester your whole life? ashiq nazir 01 05 yeah, yeah born and bred tony morelan 01 06 so when you were in school did you study network engineering? ashiq nazir 01 10 so i studied, wait for it the mathematics statistics and computing ventures in you'd probably spit them out by then but it was really my work life the jobs that i went to into after that, so i do love it support i did networking, implementation, network design, network infrastructure, and lots of other networking related jobs that was me fully immersed in that field tony morelan 01 42 so you learned after school, when you really dove into the workforce, that's where you got off your experience so when you're not network engineering, what do you like to do for fun? ashiq nazir 01 51 so this is one thing that not a lot of people will kind of understand, but i like fitness i like training and i don't work on the guns or the pythons as much as people think but i have got a modest you know and so for anybody who doesn't know, pythons guns, that sort obviously refers to your arms, which is what most guys, they love building the humps you know, they'll neglect the rest of the body 02 24 phenomenal tony morelan 02 26 yeah which is i'm kind of thinking that's not actually a typical engineer the physique of the typical engineer i think you stand out a little bit at some of these conferences ashiq nazir 02 35 um, once upon a time when i started doing a lot of this thing, and it support it sport was once the forte of the nerd yes, the computer geek in the in the closet you won't let him out when your computer's dying or near death, and then you lock him away after you use fixed your computer and i broke that mold i can tell you that so even a lot of the conferences that i attended over the years yeah, i did stand out a little bit tony morelan 03 08 yeah, definitely, definitely so i want to talk about iot gadgets so iot gadgets is a blog that you run that i know came out of your excitement for tyson os so can you tell me how you first discovered tyson and why you became so passionate about it? ashiq nazir 03 24 okay, now, so this is a little bit of a big question forgive me, i'm going to have to expand on this slightly once upon a time, there was an operating system called miko, and there was this mobile phone that they brought out, which was the nakia and 900 now, this was one of the first linux based true phones and there were lots of things that you could do you had a built in terminal, he had a real web browser that supported flash now, most people don't really know what that entails but once upon a time, you couldn't play flash animations in a mobile web browser it was just unheard of in the likes of apple and other things, you could not do those things so i started following this operating system and i started promoting it on twitter and, you know, unbeknownst to me, i became sort of a bit of an evangelist and before i knew it, i had sort of 6000 people that were following my twitter account wow and a year or so and then, you know, i was invited over to a conference in dublin now, and that was the point where meemo was becoming meego and this was when intel partnered with nakia and then it was a natural fit to me to follow on to meego and, and there's lots of wonderful things that operating system could do unfortunately, there's a change of direction and amiga was discontinued, but then intel continued with it and samsung came on board what we found was tyson which was favored by the linux foundation now for myself, i'm one of the few people that have traveled the world to almost every single ties and conference and summit all over the world being involved in ties in and helping promote it now at that time, i started a website called to ty's an expert's yes, that was to obviously promote tyson tony morelan 05 25 about what year was that? did you were started tyson experts that was back in 2011 so tyson experts at the site, they started how did you go from tyson experts to specifically iot gadgets? ashiq nazir 05 40 well, at the time were tyson experts we covered a lot of blog articles about tyson sdks ids so anybody who doesn't understand so sdks software development kit, ids, integrated development environment, and then what we wanted to do is broaden a bit of the coverage of seidman things that we were involved in and then in 2018, we started iot gadgets and started more dooms some blockchain cryptocurrency stuff, and more stuff related around iot or the internet of things tony morelan 06 16 got it okay so obviously, you've got a lot of writers that are writing for iot gadgets i'm assuming you've got some staff writers i actually did understand, though, that you do welcome guest writers so can you give me a little bit of background about your writers? and if someone wants to submit an article, how did they become a guest writer for iot gadgets? ashiq nazir 06 33 so basically, we've had lots of writers come and go over the years now and what we found is a lot of writers tend to be found on iot gadgets so even samsung themselves, they have hired a few of our writers over the years as well, tony morelan 06 53 really so they're being discovered on iot gadgets that's it that's it so ashiq nazir 06 58 yeah, we welcome people join in and, you know, if people have got the passion, love for writing and computing, by all means they can contact us and an easy way to join in is if you go onto the website, which is www iotgadgets com and just click on write to us, or write for us, shall i say, okay, you're straight through to us tony morelan 07 21 that's excellent so tell me personally, what are some of your favorite topics to cover? ashiq nazir 07 26 and so for myself, we've been very much involved in a lot of smartwatch stuff so that that's a lot of our focus is still smartwatch, based around smartwatches, the apps, the watch faces software updates, now, that kind of thing okay tony morelan 07 45 so another thing that i then when i was doing a little bit of background research on iot gadgets was that you run a pretty big facebook group that is focused on the samsung galaxy watch that i think you've got like almost 75,000 members so talk a little bit about that facebook group and tell me what it has to offer ashiq nazir 08 05 so, with the figure of 75,000, that you mentioned, we're up to actually, let me just have a quick look we're actually over 77,000 tony morelan 08 17 now really? ashiq nazir 08 19 wait not for nobody and neither does our facebook group it's a great place for people to meet each other, who are obviously smartwatch enthusiasts, and developers to showcase their apps, showcase their watch faces, and get relevant feedback you know, we all need to know what works, what doesn't work and it's an excellent place for people to promote themselves tony morelan 08 44 that's wonderful i mean, because i know that's one of the challenges, you know, when i was developing some apps, was you know, you've created this great app, but then how do you get people to, to discover it? and so always trying to find different ways to make yourself known out there is a huge challenge so, you know, knowing that you've got this facebook group with such a huge active community, that's going to be a huge benefit for developers just starting out so that's absolutely amazing to hear so tell me what's in the future for iot gadgets? ashiq nazir 09 16 well down the road, we're actually hoping to start doing a lot more wearable reviews and obviously, at the moment, people are staying at home a fair bit, for some reason, not sure why aren't doing lots more home fitness apps, and okay, for myself, i've got the background i've got the thing to sell that because hey, i love fitness so, just for me, tony morelan 09 43 that's great that's great so tell me what are some of the benefits for developers looking to create apps using tyson? ashiq nazir 09 49 so tyson, one of the propositions right from the outset, was this was going to be an operating system that you can use on a variety of devices, but on smartwatches on the mobile side, it has excellent battery life now, for a lot of people, you they might not comprehend what a brilliant battery life means until they actually try using a device when they're trying to use some fancy app and you know, they can only get half the day to assault so that was something that was brilliant right from the start and you've got solid performance, where like, say, for my smartwatch you know, i've never really known it to crash or have any issues it just performs and that's what you want from a smartwatch you want it to perform you don't want it to be another bane of your existence sure you don't want to be on the phone to tech support hey, what's wrong? you never want to talk to tech support you want to break that relationship and that's what i love about it tony morelan 10 53 that's great that's great so you've been doing this you know iot gadgets for a while i know that you've been experiencing a lot of different tyson app so you got to tell me what is your favorite type of tyson app you know what surprised and impressed you ashiq nazir 11 08 saw myself, i'm going to call back to a bit of that health and fitness stuff so obviously with samsung, they you've got the samsung health app that integrates very nicely with your titan, smartwatch and a lot of your apps that count your calories that count your steps, that they're all that information, then get stored into some health so for myself, i love that thing of, of being able to see things on my watch and then it's all collated and it's available at my fingertips to see how fast i was and what was my heart rate and, and from that data, you can then obviously, analyze your performance and figure out hey, what do you do next? exactly tony morelan 11 53 that's great so can you tell me do you have any ideas of a type an app that you would love to see a developer create ashiq nazir 12 02 you're going to call me boring i'm just going to say, perhaps but so i think it'd be great for having fitness apps where to watch us could actually chat to each other so, you know, for yourself, if you're doing a particular workout somebody else who's doing a particular workout, you can actually it'd be great to see two apps showing you performing against somebody in real time mm hmm i'm not sure obviously, that the use of the screen is really small on a smartwatch, but, you know, just look at some small metrics that can show you who's beating him i'm sure that'd be quite exciting tony morelan 12 39 that would be that would be so you know, i was doing a little bit of a research on this topic recently and saw that it was interesting a lot of the community when it comes to using a smartwatch as it relates to fitness, they don't want to be told that hey, great job you've walked, you know, so many steps today are a great job you've got it chair, you're doing exercise so the information they want to receive is that, hey, it's time to get moving that you haven't reached your goal so it's more of that motivation so it's not the encouragement that, you know, awesome, you did good today, it's more like, get out of the seat and let's get rolling so what's your thought on that sort of approach with an app ashiq nazir 13 23 um, so with that sort of functionality, we've actually got that in the titan smartwatches so every periodically if you haven't moved for a while, it'll actually tell you, hey, head up, do something and they'll give you a little, there'll be little suggestions that will show that, you know, you might want you to swing your torso around, or stand up or flap your arms around and the whole idea is that it can, you know, motivate you to start moving, because they say, you know, a, a journey of 1000 steps starts with one so even if you get up and you start doing something that is obviously a step in the right direction so that's built into the os so something that builds further onto that, another app, that state takes it another step further so then it can collate the number of steps you've possibly done that day and compared it to other days and just giving you a similar sort of, or slightly more encouragement to get you moving tony morelan 14 27 exactly think that'd be really good yeah, no, i completely agree so i know that iot gadgets is put out a lot of different articles, a lot of different blogs can you tell me which article or blog that you're most proud of? ashiq nazir 14 42 so i love the excitement in the ties and community of lights been on devices so we get a huge amount of interest in upcoming devices we're really proud of the fact that we are one of the blogs that come first with all the latest information have, you know what's happening out there? and what are the new devices that are coming out? so, no, soon, there might be some more galaxy watch devices coming out so you just have to go to www iotgadgets com, and you'll find out more that's a shameless plug so tony morelan 15 19 love it, love it so, you know, doing these for all these years, i know that you've had to face some challenges so talk a little bit about some of the challenges that iot gadgets has had to face ashiq nazir 15 30 wow so i think one of the biggest ones that and that we were fortunate enough to face and there's not a lot of websites that have this sort of issue is the amount of traffic we get so initially, like any other blog, you know, you set up, set yourself up with somebody servers out there and is able to handle your traffic and then we'd put some news out there, bang the website's dead is just way too much you know? traffic coming in to too many visitors so then, you know, you upgrade the server and then next time you have some big news, bang, that one's dead and you think, wow, this is deja vu so we've had that situation, unfortunately or fortunately so always good in the blogging world to get lots of traffic that, you know, there's so many times we had to upgrade ourselves to get to the point where we can click something and we're confident the surfers not going to die i'm going to say something i mean, we're going to publish a particular post, and the server is going to be able to handle the traffic so that's been the one unfortunately, that's been one of the biggest hurdles we've had to overcome tony morelan 16 41 and it's obviously a good challenge to have to face i mean, yeah, yeah, yeah ashiq nazir 16 48 yeah, you know, it's one of them things you might you've definitely doing something right if you've got that problem yeah tony morelan 16 55 so tell me what is the best way for people to contact iot gadgets? no, you'd mentioned the website are there any other ways that people can contact iot gadgets? ashiq nazir 17 05 yes, certainly so we've we're obviously on the web emails that are very good one so if you fire off an email to contact@iotgadgets com is a mailbox that's always monitored we're obviously on social media, which twitter, facebook, instagram, and they're all monitored as well so tell me what those your social media handles are so it's iot gadgets across all of them and yeah, they're, they're all monitored and you can see you'll hopefully get a reply within 24 hours, possibly instantly i'm awake at three o'clock in the morning wonderful, which hasn't happened in the past now tony morelan 17 48 yes, when you when you put out a big blog in the in your, your monitoring your servers, i'm sure you're up at all hours ashiq nazir 17 54 well, the world the world doesn't sleep unfortunately so even i've gone to some conferences i've got introduced to people and they've turned around and say, do you ever sleep? because they realize what time zone i'm in, what time zone they're in and the two things don't match tony morelan 18 13 i think what you're saying is that you want a developer to create an app for you for your smartwatch that says, hey, ash, it's time to go to sleep now couldn't sleep just ashiq nazir 18 21 yeah and it just automatically switches everything off there we go tony morelan 18 25 so excellent ash, it was wonderful, chatting with you and getting to know a little bit more about not only you but also iot gadgets, super excited about what you guys are doing and looking forward to reading some more blogs about upcoming information so again, thank you very much for being on the podcast today ashiq nazir 18 39 hey, tony it's been really great being here and thanks for having us on and thanks for taking the time once you appreciate it outro 18 48 looking to start creating for samsung, download the latest tools to code your next app, or get software for designing apps without coding at all sell your apps to the world on the samsung galaxy store check out develop samsung com today and start your journey with samsung the pow! podcast is brought to you by the samsung developer program and produced by tony morelan
Learn Developers Podcast
docseason 1, episode 3 previous episode | episode index | next episode this is a transcript of one episode of the samsung developers podcast, hosted by and produced by tony morelan a listing of all podcast transcripts can be found here host charlotte allen community manager, samsung developers guest tony morelan developer evangelist, samsung developers instagram - twitter - linkedin in this episode of pow, the tables are turned and i am the one being interviewed hear stories from my past life as a freelance graphic designer, like when i designed madonna’s first website, recorded a knock-off version of the final countdown for nokia, and had a chance encounter with a ferrari that launched my career at samsung listen download this episode topics covered watch face designing galaxy watch designer galaxy watch studio mobile ui theme designing themes studio check out the samsung developer program website at developer samsung com to learn more about designing watch faces using samsung’s galaxy watch studio previously named gear watch designer and galaxy watch designer , as well as designing mobile ui themes with samsung’s galaxy themes studio be sure to sign up for the samsung developers newsletter to learn about the latest from the samsung developer program helpful links facebook instagram twitter youtube linkedin forums transcript note transcripts are provided by an automated service and reviewed by the samsung developers web team inaccuracies from the transcription process do occur, so please refer to the audio if you are in doubt about the transcript tony morelan 00 02 hey, i'm tony morelan and this is pow! podcast of wisdom from the samsung developer program, where we talk about the latest tech trends and give insight into all of the opportunities available for developers looking to create for samsung on today's show, we're going to do something a little different we're going to switch chairs, and i'm going to be the one being interviewed i sat down with charlotte allen, she's the one in charge of our outreach, finding the best opportunities in building the relationships that drive our developer program charlotte is also the person i called when i said i wanted to work for samsung hope you enjoy 00 39 hi, tony hey, charlotte, tony morelan 00 40 how are you? i'm doing fine how about yourself? charlotte allen 00 43 i'm good excellent can i tell you i'm really excited to have the opportunity to interview you today? yeah, this is this should be fun so how long have we known each other maybe a year that's actually a year and a half charlotte allen 00 54 year and a half it seems like longer in some ways tony morelan 00 58 but i think that's a good thing in a good way, charlotte allen 01 01 yes so i'm excited because in the year and a half, we've been working together, you've done so many amazing things and i'm excited for the community to get to know you and to learn about some of the things that you've done yeah so tell us a little bit about tony tony morelan 01 17 sure so before i started working at samsung, my entire career, i was a freelance graphic designer at a nice office at home, i got to work on a lot of nice projects i got to set my own hours i mean, really, it was it was a great gig charlotte allen 01 31 tell me a little bit about some of the cool projects that you worked on as a freelance designer tony morelan 01 37 sure yeah i did a fun project for nokia i didn't animation for the conference okay and they wanted some music to go with it i don't know if you know the song the final countdown yes, yes done by a band called europe, right so they wanted that song and i said, well, you can't just go and take that song i said, however, how about i record knock off version of that song yes charlotte allen 02 02 okay, so musically inclined as well tony morelan 02 05 yeah so you know, back when i was a kid, i thought i was going to be a rock star and okay the band and did that for about 10 years and realized, yes, charlotte allen 02 13 you had your own band yes, tony morelan 02 15 yeah and so when they said, hey, they wanted this song, i said, i can do that for you the next year, they loved it so much they said, come back and do us another one so then they asked me to basically rip off a u2 song and that was a lot of fun i still managed to, you know, plug in my guitar every once in a while, even the music that you're listening to today on this podcast, right? that's my alter ego is the atomic tone? yes so yeah, so i, you know, good opportunity here i still get to, you know, do a little recording have a little fun so yeah, all the music that you're hearing today is from the atomic tone was fortunate to actually get my start right around the same time that the internet was really starting to grow i actually worked on hp’s first website, but i would say, you know, the craziest project that i worked on was i actually designed madonna's first website charlotte allen 03 36 so wait a second so madonna the material girl, yeah, yes, madonna wow, that's pretty cool tony morelan 03 46 yeah, so i was doing some work for sony music the internet was totally new they didn't even have a website for their music division and they were wanting to bring their artists online so i designed a site for madonna, bruce springsteen, ozzy osborne i mean, even britney spears, you know a lot of the big names at the time yeah, so that was a lot of fun charlotte allen 04 05 so the material girl madonna, how was it working with her? tony morelan 04 10 really the only feedback madonna kept giving for the website was make my picture bigger make my picture bigger so we would do rounds and rounds and wrath of the website and madonna's picture kept getting bigger and bigger i charlotte allen 04 21 don't think anybody's going to be surprised by that right? tony morelan 04 23 no, no, no, when i think back that was probably one of the most unique projects that i got to work on charlotte allen 04 29 wow so tell me about your journey tony morelan 04 32 to samsung how i got here yeah, so that that was unique also, i had no intentions of leaving my freelance gig truthfully it was it was amazing however, i came across an amazing opportunity a friend of mine who was also a graphic designer knew about samsung she invited me to attend a workshop here at the campus in mountain view where they were going to teach you about the software called gear watch designer has since been changed to galaxy watch studio the free software that samsung makes available to designers to create interactive watch faces without doing any coding as a designer, that was like all i needed to hear and then when she said that there was free pizza, i thought hacky? no, why not show up for me? that sounds like a great evening charlotte allen 05 17 that's something we have in common yes tony morelan 05 23 interesting enough that was when i first met you because you were the one who was actually putting on this workshop that evening, i went home and actually stayed up all night creating my first watch face you guys were kind enough to actually give me one of the watches so i created this design and i put it on the watch and i sat there and stared at it and thought, oh my gosh, i've just created this like interactive moving animated artwork that's sitting on my wrist and knowing that i could then take that design and upload it to the galaxy store and start selling this, i thought, oh my gosh, what a great gig i thought of it as sort of a fun hobby at the time but i found myself over the next six months, spending more and more time designing watch faces and then eventually becoming approved to design phone ui themes when i learned about that, i just was so excited about this new way to be creative, to actually get my designs out and available seriously around the globe i mean, that first time that i published a watch face, i woke up that morning, and saw that i had a sale from argentina i had a sale in russia, mexico, united states, korea i mean, it was just amazing to see all these sales from around the globe that just got me even more excited charlotte allen 06 46 yeah, that is amazing and i personally have seen some of your designs, which are amazing thank you so i talk a little bit more about your design yeah tony morelan 06 54 so you know, when i started doing the artwork, i wasn't thinking so much like what's going to be the top seller, it was more of this as a creative outlet you know, i'm a huge fan of artists like miro and mondrian and matisse i love cars i love industrial thing so i found myself being inspired by just things that i saw out in the world that could be turned into a watch face so i was grabbing my phone and snapping pictures and, and getting inspired but all these, you know, different unusual objects that i could turn into a watch face charlotte allen 07 24 so is that what inspired my most favorite designs that i've seen of yours? and i remember they're these amazing car wheels and these are jags yeah, tony morelan 07 34 exactly so i was at a stoplight and again, a ferrari pulled up next to me and i see his wheel and i thought, oh my gosh, it's like a perfect watch face so that inspired me to create a watch face that i call to sorrow charlotte allen 07 48 to sorrow yeah, that mean tony morelan 07 50 like that in italian it means treasure, which i thought hey, you know this is a great a great word it was great inspiration for the for the watch that watch face ended up becoming like top seller, what was nice was right around that time, samsung started to take notice of my designs, they wanted to feature that design on a banner on the homepage on the galaxy store it was huge i mean, it was from that design that i really started to see, you know how much money can be made off of doing these watch faces i then realized that i'd love this way too much started asking myself that question, could i go work for a company? could i actually go into the corporate world? i mean, a lot of times people start in the corporate world, and then they go home and they start doing freelance work while i'm doing it reverse, then the question was easy to answer and that was yes you know, i wanted to do this so i made a phone call and that phone call was to who? me? yes it was to i don't know if you remember that phone call? absolutely charlotte allen 08 45 yeah, the phone call you said i want to come and work for you and this is i should say after a number of conversations that we actually had already had, where you are providing some really great feedback to us about the design process areas and we could help you even come to some of our follow up meetings and they are you are already supporting some of the other folks who were also from the workshop and who are in the design process so that was kind of this natural thing that started to happen tony morelan 09 13 yeah, i found myself actually not only teaching the other designers that were invited to come to these meetings, but i was actually teaching the samsung people how to use the software that's when it gave me the confidence like, yes, i could go work for samsung, because i knew i had something that i could offer 09 34 tell us about your role here at samsung tony morelan 09 37 so my title is senior developer evangelist but i often tell people, i'm a teacher and there are different sides to that so one side of being a teacher at samsung is going out into the community so i will speak at conferences, i will conduct workshops, i will teach at universities, lots of different ways to get out into the community and teach how to design and create for samsung here at the office, though i am writing blogs creating youtube tutorial videos, we've now been doing this podcast series we've also launched a webinar series so a lot of different ways where i can help the community but being here in the office, so it is all about assisting designers and developers on creating for samsung charlotte allen 10 21 yeah so you touched a little bit on something that i wanted to ask about a webinar series, which is something that was just launched very recently, where you did just some amazing work, i mean, from building the studio, which is really cool, just doing cool vibe to our webinars to come up with a name, which is wow yes and talk a little bit about, wow, sure everybody wants to know what that means and then also, the recent webinar you did, tony morelan 10 48 yeah, yeah, we launched this new webinar series called wow, which stands for webinars of wisdom and the idea is to not just teach but do it in a very fun sort of quirky way so if you have seen any of the episodes of well, please go check them out, you can find them on youtube, just search samsung developer program and just put in wow and it'll show there the latest webinar that we did was about how to become a themes ui designer, what it takes so you have to submit a portfolio of a mockup of a theme and once it gets reviewed and approved, then you get the ability to download the software and start creating themes charlotte allen 11 26 and so well then led to what we're doing right now yes which is pow, so pow talk about what that means yeah, a little bit about so tony morelan 11 33 pow is podcasts of wisdom i mean, it took me off about two seconds you know, when we were done creating wow, i thought hmm, we have to come up with something for podcasts what could that be? and it was pretty quick it just came up with pow podcasts of wisdom so lots of great plans with that we're actually putting together our schedule already of all the interviews that we're going to be doing so we'll be interviewing some internal people here at samsung they can share a lot about our technologies and processes and how you can be successful using our tools we're also going to be interviewing designers and developers that are already successful with samsung so we've already lined up quite an impressive list of people that i'll be interviewing on pal that can share their journey how did they become a designer or a developer selling for samsung? so super excited about that? charlotte allen 12 20 yeah, i'm super excited about it as well another thing that you've worked on, that i've been really impressed with is you've created some amazing tools to support designers and the cool thing about you, tony, is that you've been on both sides of the fence you've been on this side of the fence as the freelance designer who attended our workshop and now you're on the other side of the fence of knowing the kinds of challenges that designers sometimes face and have come up with some amazing solutions in the way of tools and so if you can share some of those tools that you've put in place, yeah, tony morelan 12 52 for sure the first tool that i created is called the asset creator i noticed that when i was doing watch face design means that i was spending just as much time creating the graphics that are needed on your seller page as i was creating for the watch face, so i needed to find a way to speed up the time that it takes to publish your watch face the asset creators have photoshop template file that automates a lot of what is required when it comes to saving all the different images if you're interested you can go to our website which is developer samsung com actually wrote a blog and even created a youtube tutorial video on how to use the asset creator so you can just search asset creator in the search field and there'll be a link for downloading the asset crater itself charlotte allen 13 34 so asset creator and i think there's a recently yes little that you just created tony morelan 13 39 yeah, so inspired by the asset creator i created some lifestyle photos; the photos are unique pictures of the watch in use so i've taken the watch and i've put it into unique backgrounds so i've you know, placed it on a leather jacket or i've found some tech looking, you know, vent or a pipe or you know, just different lifestyle pictures of these photos and what's unique is that you can just copy paste your watch face into the layer in photoshop, and photoshop will automatically position at depth of field blur, it will do all of the necessary adjustments to the picture so that it is embedded into the scene so it's a huge time saver lots of unique pictures out there so again, you can find the lifestyle photos on our website, going to developer dot samsung comm charlotte allen 14 26 so one of the important things that you said a couple times with both of the tools is, is this time saver? yeah what kind of time are you talking? tony morelan 14 33 so i would say, you know, i would spend half a day creating the assets for your seller page charlotte allen 14 39 absolutely and that's why i wanted you to share is a huge time saver so you've done so much already, in just a year and a half anything we should look forward to tony morelan 14 48 yeah, one of the things i'm most excited about, we're actually doing a partnership with the art institute of dallas so we're going to be conducting an 11-week course for the students there that'll be really exciting we're going to dive really deep into watch face designing and all these students will get an opportunity to publish their designs and make those available to the world so really excited about that and we'll be doing some additional outreach so i know that we're going to go to how design in boston this year so that'll be a ton of fun we're going to set up a booth, we'll have some interaction for people to come in and actually design watch faces on site you know, in the past, we've gone to adobe max, that has been a wonderful experience in we have plans of returning there again in the in 2020 charlotte allen 15 30 yeah, i'm excited about both of those house new to us we haven't been there before, but been planning what we want to do there so it'd be really exciting so hopefully, we might be able to meet some folks there as well yes so what's the biggest challenge with your role here at samsung? tony morelan 15 43 i would say public speaking i mean, i'm a very chatty person, but you know, i have not had much experience getting up on stage really? charlotte allen 15 52 wow, tony, i'm really surprised to hear that i would not have thought and tony morelan 15 55 he must have forgot about that time that i bombed we were hosting about 100 different here at the campus, and i was i was asked to just give a short presentation i mean, maybe 10 minutes, the presentation could not have been easier i mean, all it has to do is talk about myself i just started at samsung, like, two months earlier, i was just going to show a few slides and talk about me as a designer and how i got to samsung well, just before i was going on stage, i was in the back of the room and a developer guy comes up and he starts asking me about all these technical questions about our watch i mean, i didn't know the answers i'm a designer i didn't know how many biometric sensors there were and the specs behind what they did so he turns to me, and he says, i'm surprised samsung hired you so now i'm doubting myself, you know, i mean, was i qualified to do this job and they announced my name to come up on stage so i run up to the stage and i grabbed the clicker to start going through my presentation and i grabbed it upside down i click the button, and i don't realize it but i'm actually going backwards to the presentation that was given before mine, and i don't realize this kind of talking away, and then i turn and i look at the projection screen, and i realized, i'm not even in my presentation so i click the other button, but then i click it too many times and i end up advancing like three slides into my presentation and at this point, i'm just totally lost you know, i'm nervous, and i start to feel this wave of anxiety come over me and i don't know what to think i don't know what to say and i just froze it just froze us looking at the audience and they were looking at me, it honestly, it's the weirdest thing i just could not function someone actually came up onto the stage and grabbed the clicker from me and together we just bulldoze my way through the rest of my presentation i mean, it was fine i mean, looking back at it, i'm sure it wasn't as bad as i made it out to be but you know, what it did tell me was that i needed to get some professional training public speaking so sign up for a few classes you know, here we are a little over a year later in this past year, i actually hosted the samsung developer conference award show so, yeah, that was a lot of fun charlotte allen 18 16 so how can the community find you? are you on social media and want to reach out to you possibly even see some of your work? tony morelan 18 24 sure, sure so when i started doing my workspace design, i'd created a brand name that brand name is axeir so it is a x e i r charlotte allen 18 32 have to ask again, is there a meaning to axeir or tony morelan 18 35 actually no, i wanted a five-letter domain name i can give a little advice is pick a domain name that people don't have to ask you how to spell it unfortunately, with axeir people don't know how to spell that so yeah, that wasn't that wasn't the best choice but you know what, i got the domain name can find me online under axeir on social channels is axeirbuzz so you can find me on twitter and instagram you can find me on linkedin, you know, just search my name is tony morelan happy to connect with you on linkedin and another way that you can reach me is just through our website you know, i'm active on the forums so you can go to our forums and post questions there charlotte allen 19 13 so it's been a blast talking to you today, i've learned some new things i didn't really know how popular you were with all the stars and but it's been great talking with you and working with you and thanks for sitting down and taking some time tony morelan 19 27 thank you outro 19 30 looking to start creating for samsung download the latest tools to code your next app, or software for designing apps without coding it all sell your apps to the world on the samsung galaxy store check out developer samsung com today and start your journey with samsung the pow! podcast is brought to you by the samsung developers program produced by tony morelan with special thanks to charlotte allen and music composed by the atomic tone
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